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Dorm Brothel The new debauchery, and the colleges that let it happen.
Christianity Today ^ | January 21, 2005 | Vigen Guroian

Posted on 02/01/2005 1:34:24 AM PST by The Loan Arranger

"The so-called sexual revolution is not, as advertised, a liberation of sexual behavior but rather its reversal. In former days, even under Victoria, sexual intercourse was the natural end and culmination of heterosexual relations. Now one begins with genital overtures instead of a handshake, then waits to see what will turn up (e.g., might become friends later). Like dogs greeting each other nose to tail and tail to nose."

Walker Percy, The Last Gentleman (1966) Nineteen sixty-six, the year in which Walker Percy's The Last Gentleman was published, is also the year I entered as a first-yearman at the University of Virginia. We did not stoop to the State U level of referring to ourselves as freshmen, sophomores, and such—not at "The University." We were all men at U.Va.—"gentlemen," we were told. Young women visited on weekends from Sweet Briar and Randolph-Macon, Mary Washington, and Hollins College. But they did not stay in the dormitory or the fraternity house. They stayed in college-approved housing, more often than not the home of a widow who had a few rooms to let and happily accepted a delegation from the colleges to assume the responsibilities of in loco parentis.

Parietal rules were enforced even in the fraternity houses—self-enforced by those of us who lived in them. Young women were not permitted in the bedrooms and had to be out of the house by a certain hour. We dated, blind-dated often. We did not know what "hooking up" was. We had never heard of date rape either, though some of us may have committed it.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: academia; college; courtship; dating; hookingup; morals; promiscuity; relationships; sex
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To: gobucks
"Guys don't fight anymore. They rent Fight Club, and pretend they do. Guys don't bleed anymore. They rent 'Kill Bill' and pretend they know what blood looks like. Guys don't cry anymore. Guys don't grieve. Men, on the other hand, seek God. Men protect women. Men fight."

I have never read anything that was so point blank dead on......

and its why I fear for America and its Christians......

41 posted on 02/02/2005 10:58:30 AM PST by cherry
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To: Tax-chick
Girls will have sex to keep a boyfriend

I can tell you, too, that boys are sometimes more physically ... assertive than they really want to be because it seems like that's what's necessary to get a girl to take them seriously as bf material and stick around.

42 posted on 02/02/2005 11:05:59 AM PST by Campion
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To: Campion

Aarrgh. That's one I hadn't heard, probably because most of what I read is aimed at girls and their parents. Our oldest daughter is 13, oldest son is 10, so we have to do the Teenage Girl thing first!


43 posted on 02/02/2005 11:08:23 AM PST by Tax-chick (Some people say that Life is the thing, but I prefer reading.)
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To: Campion
What's the attraction?

Are you serious? The attraction is the sex. That's the point. In case you haven't noticed, sex is fun. People like it. THAT'S the attraction. It's the same reason people drink to excess or use drugs or drive fast sports cars. Because it's fun and because it feels good.

44 posted on 02/02/2005 11:12:37 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: livius
I now live near the University of Florida, where the sorority girls are referred to as "sorostitutes."

"Chi-O, Chi-O, it's off to bed we go..."

45 posted on 02/02/2005 11:14:31 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: little jeremiah

Ping


46 posted on 02/02/2005 11:16:45 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: The Loan Arranger
I will never send my kids to any college with co-ed dorms. Such places invariably also have an abortion clinic on campus or right across the street.

Culture of Death ping.
47 posted on 02/02/2005 11:20:13 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc sign, vinces †)
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To: Antoninus
I will never send my kids to any college with co-ed dorms

Is that seriously any different than walking all the way up one flight of stairs to the girls' floor? Or even walking the whole 50 feet to the girls' dorm in the next building?

I think you're making a little bit of a artifical distinction here. In single-sex dorms, maybe the girls aren't right across the hall, but it ain't like they're far away. Heck, in my single-sex dorm, I saw more than my fair share of unclad women in our shower.

48 posted on 02/02/2005 11:22:58 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: gobucks
Men, on the other hand, seek God. Men protect women. Men fight.

Funny. I never allow myself to be labeled a "guy". I tell people who do that I'm a man, not a "guy."
49 posted on 02/02/2005 11:25:02 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc sign, vinces †)
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To: ichabod1
But, you know what they say, nice guys sleep alone.

I used to think that. Until I got married.
50 posted on 02/02/2005 11:26:02 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc sign, vinces †)
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To: The Loan Arranger
One other thing to consider is the male female ratio on college campuses these days. When I went to school in the late 80's it was about 1 to 1. Now I have seen many statistics that indicate that there is a surplus of girls in college. Before I went to school I believe that in most coed institutions there was a surplus of guys. When girls are in the minority they make the rules. Now days guys are the minority, so guess who is making the rules.
51 posted on 02/02/2005 11:26:43 AM PST by Fellow Traveler
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To: The Loan Arranger
This does sound like the college culture.

It's entirely possible to entirely circumvent the college sex scene - its one of the reasons I associated myself primarily from friends from Campus Crusade, where the guys struggled to maintain moral purity.

My generation lives in a sex-drenched culture where movies such as American Pie have convinced us that our value is determined by our sexuality. In such an over-sexed culture, its small wonder that men and women engage in random relationships.

52 posted on 02/02/2005 11:28:12 AM PST by jude24 ("To go against conscience is neither right nor safe." - Martin Luther)
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To: Publius Valerius
Because it's fun and because it feels good.

How fun is it to get dumped? How fun is it to wonder if you're pregnant by some guy who's name you don't remember? How fun is it to fool around with someone hoping they'll actually find you interesting enough to call back? What kind of fun ends with a "walk of shame"?

Sex with your wife who loves you and is completely committed to you and is your best friend on earth ... now that's fun, but better than that, it's a foretaste of heavenly glory.

53 posted on 02/02/2005 11:31:47 AM PST by Campion
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To: anniegetyourgun

Excellent point.


54 posted on 02/02/2005 11:31:56 AM PST by najida (Never explain--your friends do not need it and your enemies will not believe you anyway.)
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To: Clemenza
I was proudly "anti-social" in college. My stubborness and refusal to go along with the flow (becoming an "other directed" man) has brought me nothing but success. The only thing good about college were my classes.

Ditto. And even some of the classes were a disappointment. I can remember some of my roommates looking forward to the 'orgies' that they hoped would happen during senior week. I read and watched football that weekend...

I had no problem being anti-social, if being social meant swapping venereal diseases. Anti-social and proud of it!
55 posted on 02/02/2005 11:35:05 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc sign, vinces †)
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To: The Loan Arranger

Bump.


56 posted on 02/02/2005 11:35:59 AM PST by mowkeka
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To: Campion
How fun is it to get dumped? How fun is it to wonder if you're pregnant by some guy who's name you don't remember? How fun is it to fool around with someone hoping they'll actually find you interesting enough to call back? What kind of fun ends with a "walk of shame"?

Besides the pregnancy, no strings sex answers all of these questions. Look: I'm not defending it, but I'm telling you the appeal. How fun is it to get dumped? It ain't fun--but if you've got no-strings sex, you aren't going to get dumped. You've got the fun of sex without the emotional risk.

Once again, the calling back is the same way--no strings sex is sex without the emotional risk. And there's not much of a "walk of shame." You wake up, shake hands, and go on your way. Thanks very much, it's been fun. As for the pregnancy, there are obvious means of prevention here.

You ask what the appeal is, and I think it's pretty obvious. I'm not defending it and I'm not arguing that there aren't a lot of values in a long-term committed relationship. But to question why people do this? That's pretty naive, I think.

57 posted on 02/02/2005 11:36:50 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Campion
Sex with your wife who loves you and is completely committed to you and is your best friend on earth ... now that's fun, but better than that, it's a foretaste of heavenly glory.

That takes a mature, even a sanctified, mindset to understand.

To the average person my age, "getting laid" is paramount. Finding a wife with whom to share a relationship is theoretically nice, but I guess, given the breakdown of American families, there's a cynicism amongst my peers. A loving relationship is the ideal; getting it on is imperative.

You've got to have a mind regenerated by the Holy Spirit to understand the greater truth your statement conveys. Most young people don't have that.

58 posted on 02/02/2005 11:38:54 AM PST by jude24 ("To go against conscience is neither right nor safe." - Martin Luther)
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To: Publius Valerius

NSA is strictly benefitting the boys.


59 posted on 02/02/2005 11:39:44 AM PST by cyborg
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To: Campion

You haven't tried to date lately have you? You must be married.


60 posted on 02/02/2005 11:42:08 AM PST by cyborg
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