Posted on 01/31/2005 9:14:49 PM PST by TAdams8591
Stay safe, and watch out for the ones who want to help you!
"Oh, you're back. (*)The guy with all the wonderful PR skills. Have you donated any of 'em to save Terri yet?"
I remember him now. Thanks for reminding us.
If one disagrees with that statement, then ask yourself, why are we still losing. The answer isn't bad judges or anything like that. Losers say that in every case."
To say that there aren't bad judges in many places, including those in Florida who are working on this case, is ridiculous. Particularly when a case becomes political most judges will make the politically correct ruling or back those who have the greatest politcial connections. I know the hard way, from personal experience.
Judge Greer made the decision to stop feeding Terri (there is NO plug to pull) based solely on hearsay. How pray tell, is that a good decision? How is it that someone who is living with someone else and having children with them (as if they are married), someone who broke the marriage vows, is permitted by law to make decisions about that person. You will find case law as well as statutes that refute your point.
There is evidence that Judge Greer REFUSES to consider, such as the bone scans taken of Terri in 1991 showing her with broken bones ALL OVER her body.
And as far as the video is concerned, as recently as January, Terri's new Female lawyer visited her and was stunned by her alertness and level of awareness. She left Terri's room, enraged that anyone would even dream of putting her to death. And an article was written about her reaction.
There may have been some PR mistakes made in this case, I haven't been involved from the beginning.
But if this case was lost it was lost primarily because of ineffective lawyering and poor judicial decisions.
Where have you been, anyway? Are you a modern day version of Rip Van Winkle??? There has been a progressive problem with activist judges, only interested in promoting their own agenda, for many years in this country. Most conservatives have accepted this reality and are well aware of the situation. Why are you so ignorant about it?
Personally, I don't think he his right, in spite of your opinion.
Seems like he only shows up at de-feeding time doesn't it?
It was lost for a number of reasons.
#1. It was an extremely tough, uphill LEGAL case from day one. Do parental rights trump spousal rights? If my wife was sick, and comatose, and my in-laws were Christial Scientists, (but my wife was not), would I want them to be able to require no medical treatment for my wife?
#2. Very poor orignal lawyering. Is better now.
#3. Horrible PR.
Judges are not my prinary concern. They need "fixing," but my primary interest in National Defense.
It should have been made into an equity case, as you can see from further reading of my post.
I just wanted an answer on your seemingly contradictory comment on public relations before you make me go off on another tangent.
I keep remembering that you have said that all before. At least we have pictures of Terri. Where are yours?
I decided to take a quick peek at your posts, to see if you're a troll, or just a smart@$$. I found that you defend john kerry, Sadaam Hussein, socialized medicine, the media when they propagandize against our troops, traitors who reveal classified info to media (as long as it hurts U.S.), and michael moore. You trash President Bush; our troops; Christians; pro-lifers; Catholics; God; Jews; the 2nd, 10th & 14th Amendments; Freepers who point out media bias against our troops; the National Guard; anyone who admits Sadaam had chemical weapons; police; Freepers in general; the Bible; WOT, Chinese food delivery guys; creationists; President Reagan's role in winning the Cold War; gun owners, Abe Lincoln; George Washington; US Imperialism (I didn't know there was such a thing); anyone who doesn't agree Fahrenheit 9/11 was the gospel truth; detaining terrorists; and the right of disabled people to live.
Just a wild guess, but I'm going with troll on this one.
Bump with a prayer!
Who did that? Where, and when? You made that up, didn't you?
| There is more bad and incorrect information running around on this story than anything else I have seen in years. Correct. Like Terri is comatose, brain-dead and PVS. Like only religious fanatics are interested in protecting her life. Like this is a political volley-ball. All of that schmutz is totally untrue and you can thank the press for it, not the people on these boards. Also correct. According to the Florida Statutes (which have been posted here time and again) it is ILLEGAL for the guardian of an incapacitated ward to deny proportionate and ordinary services such as food, water, shelter, clothing, hygiene and treatment for infection. When Schiavo did first in 1993, the court and the state had an obligation to REMOVE HIM as guardian. That's the law. See above. Additionally, as he has abandoned his marriage and does not qualify as guardian under Florida's guardianship laws, the courts have an obligation to REMOVE HIM as guardian. He is not acting lawfully and that is the beginning and end of it. Tough *&%$#@. The judge is ruling contrary to law, over-reaching the law, legislating from the bench and acting as both proxy and monitor of proxy - thereby violating the separation of powers doctrine. When people view this case in the legal aspects, they cannot POSSIBLY say there is nothing amuck. Terri has been denied due process, the judge has acted as an advocate for the guardian, she has been denied an independent Guardian ad Litem and the list goes on. Where are you getting your information? Have you been to a single gathering? I have been to all of them. There are some religious folk, some disabled folk, some folk who don't give a damn about anything but the possible murder of a young woman by removing a basic, human need without her permission. Another bunch of bunk. They had no psychic healer. They had a therapist who was using verbal stimulation to coax Terri in a positive way. A hell of a lot more than the guardian has done, by the by, even though the LAW requires that he provide rehabilitation and restoration to capacity. This is the only thing the Schindlers could possibly do to try to help their daughter since they have been denied permission to intervene in any way. If that were my kid, you best believe I'd do anything I possibly could. So would you, mate. A flat-out lie and you know it. I've seen the tapes in their entirety. Have you? No? Maybe because unscrupulous 'journalists' have turned this whole thing into a political nut when it never was. Since people are basically sheep, they ate that up with a side salad. None of it is true and you know it as well as I. BS. This has been about getting the story into the minds and hearts of as many people as humanly possible. Because the press and media have consistently leaned on Schiavo's side of the story, this was an important factor. The result was a groundswell from the grassroots that has been both impressive and instrumental in sparing this young woman's life. Oh, and doesn't it show? I think you're the one looking for 15 minutes. Shame on you. It's just that as a lawyer and former network news reporter, I have seen the vast foolishness perpetrated in this case. .... and yes I have volunteered to help. On three separate occasions, "someone" from the team was going to call me back in 30 minutes. Callbacks? Zero. You've been contacted. If it didn't work out in the fashion that you had wished it to, you're not in the right to criticize. The people you've spoken to are VOLUNTEERS. They have no power or authority to make decisions for a family or that family's legal team. That's reality. If you mean the bickering, slandering and divisiveness of a few... I couldn't agree more. If you mean that they've not succeeded in getting the grassroots to their feet, nothing could be further from the truth. You already answered this in your opening remarks. The husband has more rights in the eyes of the law. Tell me, do you think judge Greer has acted appropriately to law in not removing a neglectful guardian who has not complied with Florida guardianship laws? That's the difference between you and I, mate. I'm keeping on until someone tells me different. I'm not going to close my eyes and let a murder go down in my neighborhood. If it does or doesn't, I'm not going to sit still and watch more laws open the doors for abuses and murder. I intend to do something - anything I can - to see that this never goes down again. What are you going to do? Knock people on a message board or get off your arse and let your representatives know you want a change? |
Bump! BTTT.
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Discuss with your neighbors, encourage them to call and email their reps, and pass this info around.
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As you read through this bill, realize this will protect the incapacitated. Hearsay and casual conversation will not be enough to starve and dehydrate a person to death in this state if this passes. Protecting the vulnerable, the brain injured, the elderly, those with disabilities will benefit from this bill.
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