Posted on 01/31/2005 8:08:42 PM PST by 68skylark
Gotta Love Texas!
I read a lot of stuff about the dreaded mainstream media on this board. It's slanted, it's liberal, blah, blah, blah...basically, it's filled with fairly well off people making six and seven figure salaries, and who don't get out and about as much as they should.
There was a time when reporters were blue collar guys. They got fired a lot. They got drunk a lot. They lived out in Queens or the Bronx. And they basically didn't pull any punches. Now it's a profession filled with guys protecting their jobs that pay for the fancy condos on the Upper West Side.
Gough's was the last bastion of the old timers -- wait, no, Runyon's was, but same difference.
Jeffrey Sparks, fiancee: "I ran to her and held her head in my hands and begged her to hold on, but she wasn't able to and she stopped breathing there on the street."
I will never understand how people who experience death like this go right on TV.
I have been accused of being a Keyboard Cowboy, and I have responded with "I will compare my Rap Sheet with yours"
Sir You have me beat, and I agree punk ass Gangs are merely weeds that need weeding, and I hear they make good fertilizer.
I wondered about that too. One possibility that's still consistent with the details reported in the article is that the killer and his friends might have just been bumming around, when to the surprise of the friends, the killer said something like, "hey, come and watch this", and then pulled out the gun and began the robbery. They could have been too stunned or scared to either leave or try to subdue their friend, and then it was quickly over.
In a case like that, I probably wouldn't consider the friends criminally at fault.
Not to say that's what happened, just saying that there are scenarios where the friends wouldn't have actually been co-conspirators in armed robbery or murder.
On the other hand, if they *were* willing participants in an armed robbery, hang them high, even if they were surprised by the shooting itself.
When it comes to Lamestream Media I imagine it is mostly refering to the Boob Tube, (and/or Graduates of Berkley)
The New Media, is YOU. Love your stories and you are published via FR. More people have probably read about Goughs on this thread than some of those "Reporters" slinging Beers at Goughs ever got with their "Best Story" (Or whatever reporters call them)
You wouldn't happen to be a writer by Trade? (if you are you have failed to chastise all spelling and grametical errors on hundreds of posts that were ripe for the picking, this one included) if not, hey you aren't half bad.
I read the Irish Times every day and I agree that their standards of factual reporting are usually excellent but I'm afraid the bias of writers like Conor O'Cleary, Lara Marlowe (read her today), Paddy Agnew, Eddie Holt etc. simply oozes out. Remember these are correspondents not opinion writers don't get me started on Fintan O'Toole or Vincent Browne. Robert Fisk used to be treated like the word of God at the IT. Kevin Myers is really the only reason why I read the paper these days.
The IT is the only paper I know that publishes letters to the editor addressed to 'Dear Madam' come on, other newspapers with woman editors don't do that that's just barf!
However, the pay sucks so badly, and so few people want to do the work that you seldom see anyone stick with actual reporting for a career, like you used to. Most of the reporters I run into are kids maybe a year or two out of college. They either move to the editorial area or go someplace where they can make some decent money. BTW, I've worked off and on for about five small town weekly newspapers, and I've never known a newspaperman that didn't have a little larceny in his blood.
I've been through three armed robberies in my life. Never had to fire a shot. Never given up a dime
There was something about them being involved in an earlier attempt so I don't think they were innocents in the wrong place. Perhaps the authorities cut them a deal for coming forward or talking. I hope this isn't the case. When someone dies, they should all hang
I never was shot at (except a Daisy pump BB gun battle- I won) but will never forget the feeling afterward where I vowed no one would hold my life in their hands like that again.
When this story broke, I checked the address where the actress was shot and discovered it wasn't far from Tompkin Square where in '68, I had been robbed (knife) at about 3AM. My friend and I couldn't find a place to crash (lots of abandoned Brownstones but we'd done that a couple of times) and were about to hang-up staying in NY anymore.
Your experience reminded me of another 'guardian angel' moment. After I pissed these guys off (didn't want to give up a ring) the knife was shoved really hard into my neck. Anyway, after they split, my friend and I headed in the opposite direction and about twenty seconds later, the park lights went off and now it was really dark. Almost pitch black. (Looking back, the lights may have saved me.)
We were startled by a dude who came out of nowhere smacking a club in his hand, asking us if we wanted to go get those guys. He'd witnessed the whole thing. He wore a hat with one side of the brim pushed up--we later discovered he was a Nam vet. The three of us spent the day touring around and trying to hustle money, walking up one of the Avenues (man, I'd never seen so many people on a sidewalk at one time in my life!). We took advantage of the new Pall Mall Golds being handed out in little four-pack samplers. After we collected enough change to make a phone call, we got some money wired to buy a couple of bus tickets home.
If I ever go back, it'd be out of curiosity only. And I'll be taking the angel with me, I hope.
Send him down here to Texas. We'll take care of him the proper way.What a stupid and senseless act. What are the odds he'll get justice up there? Very low, I bet.
Shortly after 3 a.m. on Thursday, Ms. duFresne, who lived in Greenpoint, had just left a bar with her fiancé and another couple when they were confronted by a group of robbers on Clinton Street .....
ha! Interesting .....
Pointing a gun at a school safety officer is just fine, as long as you don't use your gun to save the life of your child when an intruder threatens.
CAUGHT
A picture of the scum in the back of the police car.
Inset picture of the young woman.
And why were the police not patrolling the area after the first report of a robbery and pistol whipping in that same area.
I didn't renew my home subscription.
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