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SOF Capable Assault Rifle
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Posted on 01/31/2005 2:22:22 PM PST by sanchez810

Last year, the U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM) issued a specification for the SOF (Special Operations Forces) Combat Assault Rifle (SCAR). At the time, the U.S. Army was also developing a new assault rifle, the XM-8, and it was thought that SOCOM might use a version of the XM-8 for its own needs. SCAR, however, is somewhat different from the XM-8. For one thing, SCAR must be able to quickly change barrels and receivers so that it can fire 5.56mm, 7.62mm (large cartridge, like the M-14 and American medium machine-guns) or the short (AK-47) 7.62mm rounds. Moreover, SCAR has to be even more rugged and reliable (and expensive to build) than the XM-8. As a result, the XM-8 lost out to a custom series of weapons from the Belgium firm, FN Herstal.

SCAR is actually two different rifles, the “light” version (5.56mm) and the “heavy” (7.62mm). Maximum number of weapons to be ordered will be 155,000 (84,000 standard lights, 28,000 closer-quarter combat versions of the light rifle, 12,000 light sniper types, 15,000 standard heavies, 7,000 heavy close-quarters combat conversions of the heavy rifle and 12,000 heavy sniper rifles.)

Meanwhile, the U.S. Army has given all other rifle manufacturers one more chance to submit weapons to compete with the current Heckler & Koch XM-8. This is a sign that official acceptance and mass production is not far away. However, not all of the senior army, or Department of Defense, brass are willing to spend the billions of dollars it will cost to reequip the troops with the XM-8. There should be a decision by next year, however. Meanwhile, SOCOM will have SCAR, even if the army ends up not getting the XM-8.



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1 posted on 01/31/2005 2:22:22 PM PST by sanchez810
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To: sanchez810

http://www.world.guns.ru/assault/as70-e.htm


2 posted on 01/31/2005 2:24:15 PM PST by Perdogg (Rumsfeld for President - 2008)
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To: sanchez810

They are thinking about fielding a 6.8mm version.


3 posted on 01/31/2005 2:25:47 PM PST by Perdogg (Rumsfeld for President - 2008)
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To: sanchez810

gratuitous evil assault weapon bump


4 posted on 01/31/2005 2:27:42 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (john f'n kerry-the original 'million dollar baby'.)
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To: Perdogg

6.8mm?


5 posted on 01/31/2005 2:28:18 PM PST by sanchez810
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To: sanchez810

Is it good for America that it buys so many of its weapons from Europe ?

Can't America design its own ?

This rifle, the XM-8, the 120mm cannon in the M1, even the new Presidential helo. Come to think of it exactly what will replace the current 747's used as Airforce One ?


6 posted on 01/31/2005 2:30:39 PM PST by Axlrose
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To: sanchez810

5.56mm is not powerful enough for Close Quarter Combat

http://www.impactguns.com/store/barrett_6.8_uppers.html


7 posted on 01/31/2005 2:32:15 PM PST by Perdogg (Rumsfeld for President - 2008)
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To: Rakkasan1

Another ugly rifle ?


8 posted on 01/31/2005 2:33:46 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Axlrose

The M16 is made in america by FN Hersal.


9 posted on 01/31/2005 2:34:04 PM PST by Perdogg (Rumsfeld for President - 2008)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

http://www.barrettrifles.com/rifles/rifles_m468.htm


10 posted on 01/31/2005 2:34:28 PM PST by Perdogg (Rumsfeld for President - 2008)
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To: Axlrose
The Italian government lobbied heavily for that contract. Since they have troops in Iraq i guess Bush couldn't refuse.
11 posted on 01/31/2005 2:34:33 PM PST by sanchez810
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To: sanchez810
I'm sure the troops will be happy with the weight, too. Looks like all versions come in at under 10 pounds. I'm happy to see they're planning on making it in the 7.62x51 AND 7.62x39 chambering. Both of those cartridges are superior to the 5.56, in my opinion.
12 posted on 01/31/2005 2:34:56 PM PST by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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To: sanchez810

They sound cool. One question: Is no American gun manufacturer able to match H&K or FN for price & quality? I have to think that weapon engineering of this level is within the capability of American companies.


13 posted on 01/31/2005 2:35:31 PM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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To: Perdogg

Thats a Belgian company right ?

I guess its better than nothing that it is made in America, but we have the talent to design our own.


14 posted on 01/31/2005 2:36:22 PM PST by Axlrose
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To: Jokelahoma

mmm yeah. They will need it since they will have to carry other gear in the near future.


15 posted on 01/31/2005 2:36:54 PM PST by sanchez810
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To: sanchez810

XCR modular weapon system, built in UTAH...

http://www.robarm.com/xcrtm_modular_weapon_system.htm

http://www.robarm.com/xcrtm_gallery.htm


16 posted on 01/31/2005 2:39:46 PM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Axlrose
Can't America design its own?

Liberals won't let us.

17 posted on 01/31/2005 2:40:24 PM PST by jsmith48 (www.isupatriot.com)
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To: Perdogg

SCAR - .308 version (or 7.62 x 51 for the purist)

18 posted on 01/31/2005 2:43:19 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: sanchez810
the .223 (5.56) version:


19 posted on 01/31/2005 2:44:59 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Perdogg
***They are thinking about fielding a 6.8mm version.***

I hope they're doing more than thinking. The stinking .223 Remington has out lived its usefulness.

With the hopped up islamofascists, you need a 'killing' round (like the .308), not a 'wounding' round (concept behind the .223). At least with this new weapon I see a 7.62x39mm version, which is the perfect assault rifle caliber IMHO.

20 posted on 01/31/2005 2:44:59 PM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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