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Rush for the Border (Limbaugh issues a warning to President Bush)
The Wall Street Journal (Op-Ed) ^ | 1-31-04 | John Fund

Posted on 01/31/2005 6:19:13 AM PST by DTogo

ORLANDO, Fla.--In the aftermath of 9/11, conservatives bottled up their frustrations over some of President Bush's policies. Then they muted their criticism during the presidential campaign. But now it is spilling out in all directions--and the White House had better pay attention.

On Friday Rush Limbaugh, a staunch Bush supporter, took two separate opportunities to warn the president that he faced conservative opposition on some key issues that could hurt his chances of passing the rest of his second-term agenda. First was federal spending, which "is surging out of control," according to the Heritage Foundation's new "Mandate for Leadership." The other was immigration, which, Mr. Limbaugh told his listeners, "could break up the Republican-conservative coalition" à la Ross Perot. "We cannot maintain our sovereignty without securing and protecting our borders in an era where terrorists around the world seek entry to this country," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at opinionjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; elrushbo; immigrantlist; immigration; maharushie; pearlsofwisdom; rushlimbaugh; w2
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To: DTogo

Each of us needs to start at home. Call or write your elected reps today, and continue until they see the light. If they put on sun glasses, give someone else your vote.


21 posted on 01/31/2005 6:48:15 AM PST by LowNslow (Retired CWO)
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To: DTogo

ping


22 posted on 01/31/2005 6:59:16 AM PST by marvlus (t)
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To: Dane

Typical of the liberals. On the one hand they are pushing for drivers licenses so that nannies can drive to work rather than ride the bus and on the other they are pushing people out of cars onto mass transit because of "global warming."

What ever is the issue of the moment is what they push.


23 posted on 01/31/2005 7:04:44 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Probus

Yep. All they care about is the money, those Move-On people.


24 posted on 01/31/2005 7:07:44 AM PST by Alia
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To: elli1

I'll grant you that. However, what I meant was: liberals see not much further than their own noses. So yes, they worked to usurp the vote of the majority of Californians in re Prop 187 (immigration reform); brought about Motor-voter, Reiner's "lottery", etc. So yes, liberals might win some battles; but lose the war eventually in their inability to think very far, or much. They remind me so very much of Jacobins.


25 posted on 01/31/2005 7:10:12 AM PST by Alia
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To: All; Elle Bee
(Elle Bee, sorry about the duplicate post.)

Some things, like El Rushbo, are worth posting twice. Thanks for all your replies, and let's all ensure our President and elected officials make the Right decisions on enforcing our borders and reforming immigration laws.

26 posted on 01/31/2005 7:10:13 AM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

true conservatives always complained about the open boarders, its about time Hush Bimbo said something about this.


27 posted on 01/31/2005 7:10:58 AM PST by Kewlhand`tek (What the hell was that? I hope it was outgoing!)
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To: All

Joseph Farah with WorldNetDaily suggested bringing thousands of troops home from countries around the world where we're not needed and building a wall along our entire border. I guess if we valued mere beauty enough to build the Blue Ridge Parkway and fund other national parks, we ought to be able to build a national wall to help protect ourselves from terrorists. Or hey, if the President believes we absolutely must keep current illegals inside America - then put THEM to work building the wall. (I know it will never happen and it wouldn't solve the problem completely, but if we can fund other massive projects I don't see why we couldn't fund this.)

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42463

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42592


28 posted on 01/31/2005 7:23:12 AM PST by SeasideSparrow
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To: Alia
Oh--I knew what you meant and I agree with ya. Tend to get twitchey on the subject of engineered voting blocks which is clearly the modus operandi of the socialist set.
29 posted on 01/31/2005 7:23:37 AM PST by elli1
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To: elli1

Gotcha. It's more than voting blocs, however, what Dems ultimate "endgame" is about. Removing borders, total USA submission to the UN/global governing body is what they are after.


30 posted on 01/31/2005 7:27:41 AM PST by Alia
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To: Kewlhand`tek
this is what it should say
31 posted on 01/31/2005 7:32:10 AM PST by Kewlhand`tek (What the hell was that? I hope it was outgoing!)
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To: Kewlhand`tek
this is what it should say
32 posted on 01/31/2005 7:33:34 AM PST by Kewlhand`tek (What the hell was that? I hope it was outgoing!)
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To: DTogo

When even Rush begins to get it, the President had better re-examine his stand on the issue.


33 posted on 01/31/2005 8:22:09 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Kewlhand`tek
Complaining is easy, actually doing something that is effective is the hard part. I agree it needs immediate attention but solving the problem is expensive, manpower intensive and difficult. No matter how much attention is paid to stopping the flow those already here must also be dealt with. It won't be easy or quick no matter what is done. Besides there are a few other things going on now, too.

Bush is changing the balance of power in the world, overhauling the tax system, saving Social Security, revamping the Civil Service union monopoly that paralyzes our bureaucracy, fighting to get constructionist judges on the courts, transforming our military and a few other things that are important but not as visible.
34 posted on 01/31/2005 9:10:54 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


35 posted on 01/31/2005 9:17:43 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: Alia
Dane, I think you are right on both counts. In my own assessments and evaluations, there's something larger going on. Can't put my finger on it quite yet. President Bush is no fool, we know that... so I'm watching his policies and statements very closely. And as a member of the won-but-stolen-CA-Prop-187 (illegal immigration reform), I've learned much. Some conservatives are arguing that the Bush Administration is doing very little wr to illegal immigration. I disagree. President Bush promised to track the terrorists, no matter where they reside, and how they got to where they reside.

So you're basically saying you blindly trust that he will do something even though all the evidence points to the opposite.

36 posted on 01/31/2005 9:25:36 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: DTogo; All

Here's another article on the same subject.
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42632

Limbaugh warns Bush
on illegal immigration
Radio talk-show giant spurred
by Mexico attack on Arizona law
Posted: January 31, 2005
11:00 a.m. Eastern

By Joseph Farah
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

WASHINGTON – Rush Limbaugh, the radio talk-show giant with more than 20 million listeners, is poised to add his considerable voice to those calling on President Bush to heed popular opinion on issues of tightening border security and enforcing immigration laws, WorldNetDaily has learned.

"We cannot maintain our sovereignty without securing and protecting our borders in an era when terrorists around the world seek entry to this country," he said Friday in a private gathering in Florida.

Limbaugh has not been an outspoken critic of the president on this issue in the past. Neither has he focused much of his broadcast attention on the border and immigration issues during his nearly two-decade career as a nationally syndicated radio talk-show host. Instead, Limbaugh is perceived as a champion of many Bush policies.

But, clearly, Limbaugh sees Bush as out of step with the public in his continued calls for implementation of a guest worker program that has been characterized by critics as an amnesty plan for as many as 20 million illegal aliens already in the country,

Limbaugh said he was particularly disturbed by statements Friday by Mexico's Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez threatening to appeal to international courts a new Arizona law barring illegal aliens from collecting some public benefits.

Proposition 200, approved overwhelmingly by voters in that state Nov. 2, has already survived critical legal tests in state and U.S. courts.

Bush already is facing mounting opposition to his guest worker plan in the House Republican caucus. A year ago, Rep. Tom Tancredo was a lonely voice of opposition to the plan. Today, he says, there are at least 180 Republican votes against the plan. House Speaker Dennis Hastert is on record as saying the plan will not move forward in the House without majority Republican support.

"Rush has 20 million listeners a week, so if he decides to attack President Bush's plan to regularize immigration flows through a guest-worker program, he could help kill the idea," said Wall Street Journal columnist John Fund.

In a White House news conference last week, Bush continued to promote his ideas about immigration reform: "I know there's a compassionate, humane way to deal with this issue. I want to remind people that family values do not stop at the Rio Grande River. People are coming to our country to do jobs that Americans won't do, to be able to feed their families. And I think there's a humane way to recognize that, at the same time protect our borders, and at the same way to make sure that we don't disadvantage those who have stood in line for years to become a legal citizen. And I'm looking forward to working with people of both parties on the issue."

Meanwhile, a leading member of his own party last week announced sweeping measures aimed at cracking down on the ability of terrorists to travel within the United States.

The Real ID Act, introduced by Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., looks to deny drivers licenses to illegal aliens, tighten the political asylum system abused by terrorists, plug a three-mile hole in the border fence between California and Mexico near San Diego, and strengthen deportation laws to more quickly oust foreign terrorists dwelling in the U.S.

"American citizens have the right to know who is in their country, that people are who they say they are, and that the name on a driver's license is the holder's real name, not some alias," said Sensenbrenner, who chairs the House Judiciary Committee.

"The 9-11 hijackers could have used their passports to board the planes, but only one did. Why? Those murderers chose our driver's licenses and state IDs as their forms of identification because these documents allowed them to blend in and not raise suspicion or concern. Mohammed Atta received a six-month visa to stay in the U.S. yet received a Florida driver's license good for six years!"

He says the act, which has 115 cosponsors in the House, would establish a uniform rule that temporary driver's licenses for foreign visitors expire when their visa terms expire, and create tough rules for confirming identity before temporary driver's licenses are issued.


37 posted on 01/31/2005 9:33:28 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Sir Gawain

No. I do not have "blind" trust.


38 posted on 01/31/2005 9:37:18 AM PST by Alia
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To: Alia

"Hollywood Socialist crowds' blather. They haven't a clue, "

On Dennis Miller about that subject, CNBC, he stated this the other night:

He held up his wrist and said "this is the pulse of America", then held up a finger on the other hand, blindly stabbing no where near his wrist and said" and this is you Hollywood!"


39 posted on 01/31/2005 9:39:15 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot; All

" saving Social Security"

Do you think this will help save social security?


ONE ILLEGAL COULD COST U.S. TAXPAYERS ONE-HALF MILLION BUCKS

"If a 24-year-old Mexican national who has worked illegally in the U.S. for three years is able to present documents from a friendly doctor and either a W-2 or pay stubs that indicate $12,000 in annual earnings, he will be eligible for the following: nearly $8,000 per year in disability income (adjusted for inflation), until age 65, at which point he would receive the same amount as retirement pay. (If he manages to get an under-the-table job in the U.S. or Mexico, he will be able to double-dip for a second income stream.) If he is survived by his wife or dependents, his family would be able to receive up to almost $12,000 annually. If he dies at 60, and his widow lives to 85, U.S. taxpayers will be on the hook for nearly a half-million dollars. That’s for one worker brought into Social Security by the pact." Source: Joel Mowbray, National Review, 1/27/03, pp. 22, 24


162,000 MEXICAN BENEFICIARIES?

" ‘We are concerned about the sheer magnitude of the agreement,’ said a House Republican aide who is an expert on Social Security. About 94,000 beneficiaries living abroad have been brought into the system by the 20 existing international agreements. A Mexican agreement alone could bring in 162,000 in the first five years." Source: Jonathan Weisman, Washington Post, 12/19/02, p. A1




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http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20040107.shtml

The criminal raid on Social Security
Michelle Malkin
January 7, 2004

My 8-week-old son's Social Security card recently arrived in the mail. On the back, there's a stern warning: "Improper use of this card or number by anyone is punishable by fine, imprisonment or both."

Welcome to the world of government theft and selective enforcement, my boy.

While innocent babes who have yet to earn a penny are threatened with jail time for misusing Social Security cards, the Bush administration appears set this week to turn the ailing government pension program into an international relief fund for illegal alien workers who used counterfeit Social Security cards and stolen numbers to secure illegal jobs.

Unlike the bedtime stories I tell at night, I am not making this up.

This belated gift to the open-borders lobby and Mexican President Vicente Fox is part of a larger amnesty plan that has been in the works since before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. So, why exactly are we rewarding a country that has been obstinately opposed to the War on Terror? Go ask Mr. Brilliant, Karl Rove. This I do know: It couldn't have come at a worse time from either a fiscal or national security standpoint.

According to Rep. Clay Shaw, R-Fla., chairman of the House Ways and Means subcommittee on Social Security, benefits paid to retirees will exceed revenues in just 15 years. The pay-as-you-go system could go belly up as early as 2030. These projections don't take into account the economic impact of the Bush proposal, which would allow untold millions of illegal aliens from Mexico to collect full cash benefits for themselves and their families from their home country -- without having to work the required number of years that law-abiding American citizens must work to be eligible for payouts.

Reporter Joel Mowbray, who first exposed this treachery a year ago, noted that this raw deal may well cost overburdened U.S. taxpayers $345 billion over the next 20 years. Probably much more. As we know from experience, Social Security projections are notoriously off the mark.

The bureaucrats call this scheme "totalization." Try total prostration. The proposed agreement is nothing more than a transfer of wealth from those who play by the rules to those who willingly and knowingly mock our own immigration and tax laws. What are we doing promising lifetime Social Security paychecks to day laborers in Juarez when we can't even guarantee those benefits to workers here at home?

Unbelievably, the White House is trying to convince us to embrace this global ripoff because it "rewards work." No, it rewards criminal behavior. The plan will siphon off the hard-earned tax dollars of American workers who may never see a dime of their confiscated earnings and fork it over to foreigners guilty of at least four acts of federal law-breaking: crossing the border illegally, working illegally, engaging in tax fraud and using bogus documents.

Giving money to scam artists will simply result in more fraud -- not only by Mexican agricultural workers, but also by Middle Easterners such as Youssef Hmimssa, who provided fake Social Security numbers and fraudulent drivers' licenses to members of an accused terrorist cell in Detroit. "If you have the right connection, you can get anything," he testified before the Senate last fall.

The door is now open for all illegal aliens to collect retirement benefits using bogus Social Security cards. What's next: survivors' benefits for the families of the 19 Sept. 11 hijackers?


40 posted on 01/31/2005 9:43:38 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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