[Alia]

I'll grant you that. However, what I meant was: liberals see not much further than their own noses. So yes, they worked to usurp the vote of the majority of Californians in re Prop 187 (immigration reform); brought about Motor-voter, Reiner's "lottery", etc. So yes, liberals might win some battles; but lose the war eventually in their inability to think very far, or much. They remind me so very much of Jacobins.

[elli1]

Oh--I knew what you meant and I agree with ya. Tend to get twitchey on the subject of engineered voting blocks which is clearly the modus operandi of the socialist set.