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To: Once-Ler

So we need to change the laws do we? LOL, so what you're saying is that you are now currently advocating something that is against the law. Well that's what I said.

Yes you do advocate ignoring laws. In fact you're so desparate to do so, that you'll equate someone who advocates our laws be enforced, to a former Klu-Klux Klan member.

You probably consider yourself to be a conservative, a person who supports the U.S. Constitution and the laws of our nation. Well you're not. You advocate for millions of people who flout our nation's laws, ripping off billions of dollars worth of goods and services in the process. Not only that, they are desimating healthcare, education, infrastructure and other resources that should be reserved for U.S. Citizens. They have also been proven to be adulterating the election process.

Why do you hate the U.S. citrizen taxpayer and their family's so much?

Which nation is it that you advocate for? Mexico? Which organizations do you support, D.U.?, A.N.S.W.E.R., La Raza, Maldef, La Voz De Aztlan? Inquiring minds would like to know.


162 posted on 01/30/2005 1:46:41 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: DoughtyOne
So we need to change the laws do we? LOL, so what you're saying is that you are now currently advocating something that is against the law.

I'm sorry you don't see a distinction between advocating fixing broken laws and advocating breaking the law. I guess MLK would have angered you when he called for an end to poll taxes and colored faucets. Opps race card again. I don't know why it's so easy with you, honest. :)

Relax, it's just a joke. Let's go with Falwell advocating an end to abortions even though abortions are legal. When the law was changed on PBA we didn't go back and punish the women who had PBAs and the doctors who performed them. But the isolationist wing of the Republican Party will not be satisfied when the issue of illegal immigration is solved by increasing legal immigration and guest workers. I sometimes refer to racism because I think some, but not all, of your allies in this fight for strict enforcement of our immigration laws are motivated by racism. Do you disagree?

Yes you do advocate ignoring laws. In fact you're so desperate to do so, that you'll equate someone who advocates our laws be enforced, to a former Klu-Klux Klan member.

No I did not! I pointed out that a former Klu-Klux Klan member advocates our immigration laws be enforced. My point is that will make Byrd very happy. This issue is a non-issue with most of America. If you ask them if they are "for" or "against" illegal immigration they unthinkingly see the word illegal and never consider the magnitude of 15 million people ripped out of their home and community. They might not understand unless/until it hits them that people who smile and serve them are gone along with a lot of business and economic growth.

Most people don't think about illegal immigration. In my experience, it's almost never a topic at the water cooler or in popular culture. You and I think about it a great deal but we are not average voters. The fact that most people do not care about this issue is indicated by the failure of the isolationist wing of the Republican Party, the rat party, or a 3rd party to persuade or develop a national candidate who espouses their views.

But the people will be educated and a debate will ensue. The debate has already begun in the media.

You probably consider yourself to be a conservative, a person who supports the U.S. Constitution and the laws of our nation.

Yes

Well you're not.

That hurts.

You advocate for millions of people who flout our nation's laws, ripping off billions of dollars worth of goods and services in the process. Not only that, they are desimating healthcare, education, infrastructure and other resources that should be reserved for U.S. Citizens. They have also been proven to be adulterating the election process.

I see illegals differently than you do. I see them as humans. I'm not trying to be flippant or say you see illegals as less than human. I'm saying you see economic and crime data and I see a bunch of people with little chance to escape poverty in their old homes. People who might die or watch their family die before they could legally enter the US. You see border crossing as an affront to the Constitution. I see it as a logical, desperate and human action. I see it as a moral issue rather than a legal issue. There but for the grace of God.

Now you are entitled to your opinion, and you may think my argument is specious or emotional, but many Americans look at illegals the same way I do. You can't legislate away the compassionate nature of the American people and you will not convince us with hyperbolic statements like "flout our nation's laws," or "decimating health care." I see too much evidence to the contrary with my own eyes.

Why do you hate the U.S. citizen taxpayer and their family's so much?

Well I don't of course. I love my country and its people. I have a wife, 2 adopted children, and my baby boy, as well as friends and other family. Like Dubya I'm a Christan pro-military pro-life pro-gun pro-business pro-family values RINO in your eyes. I don't doubt your love of country, but I do doubt your judgment.

Which nation is it that you advocate for? Mexico? Which organizations do you support, D.U.?, A.N.S.W.E.R., La Raza, Maldef, La Voz De Aztlan? Inquiring minds would like to know.

I'll ignore this as the childishness that anyone can clearly see it is.

168 posted on 01/30/2005 3:33:23 AM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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