That torn down fence is our "border" with mexico, in Lukeville, Arizona. See the road?
Ever heard of ATV's? A person on a quad can go quite easily across our "open" border, anywhere they want.
Posted on 01/27/2005 7:15:50 PM PST by neverdem
WASHINGTON, Jan. 26 - The battle within the Republican Party over immigration policy was joined Wednesday as President Bush vigorously promoted his proposal for a guest worker program and conservatives in Congress introduced an alternative proposal to tighten immigration restrictions.
At a news conference, President Bush said again that he considered his guest worker proposal "a priority" even though Senate Republicans left it off their list of top goals. "A program that enables people to come into our country in a legal way to work for a period of time, for jobs that Americans won't do, will help make it easier for us to secure our borders," Mr. Bush said, adding: "I know there is a compassionate, humane way to deal with this issue. I want to remind people that family values do not end at the Rio Grande border."
Party conservatives, however, have strenuously opposed a guest worker plan since Mr. Bush introduced the idea in 2001, even staging a losing revolt over its inclusion in the party platform at the 2004 Republican convention. Many conservatives call the president's ideas "amnesty" - a term Mr. Bush disputes - because his plan includes ways for currently illegal immigrants to obtain temporary worker permits.
On Wednesday afternoon, Representative F. James Sensenbrenner Jr., the Wisconsin Republican who is chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, again introduced a measure to block illegal immigrants from obtaining driver's licenses.
At a news conference, he said the committee would not consider other immigration proposals, implicitly including the president's, until his own measure passed. A similar measure was removed from a bill to enact the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission last year. Senator Jon Kyl, Republican of Arizona, is expected to introduce a driver's license restriction this year.
Mr. Sensenbrenner said his bill was primarily directed at border security, distinguishing it from other changes in immigration policy. "Immigrants are not terrorists, except a few of them," he said. "The legislation that was introduced today is designed to get the bad apples out of the barrel before the barrel was spoiled."
He said a group of House Republicans had written a letter to Mr. Bush urging him to provide full financing for provisions in last year's antiterrorism bill doubling the number of border patrol agents and tripling the number of beds for detaining illegal immigrants over the next five years. The Department of Homeland Security said recently that it was planning a smaller increase in financing, drawing the ire of advocates of tighter immigration laws.
Asked about the president's proposal, Mr. Sensenbrenner said his committee was "going to be plenty busy with other priorities, a lot of which are the priorities of the White House."
In an interview, Representative Chris Cannon, a Utah Republican who supports the president's plan, said a guest worker program would not amount to an amnesty because it would include a monetary penalty for currently illegal immigrants. "The people who want to kick them all out are not reasonable people," he said.
But Representative Tom Tancredo, Republican of Colorado and chairman of the Congressional immigration caucus, vowed to defeat any program that in his view would reward lawbreakers, even questioning the president's motives. "Could it be just the corporate interests, the money interests that rely so heavily on cheap labor?" he asked
It's beyond crap. Nobody is buying this sh*t.
Can ANYBODY remind the President that HIS job isn't to moralize about why he's allowing a foreign invasion to go on unimpeded??
MEMO TO GEORGE W. BUSH:
YOU ARE STILL OBLIGATED TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FROM ILLEGAL INVASION
Are the eunuchs and RINOs in the GOP really going to stop him?
Yes but it's sad isn't it? I can't believe such an outrageous scheme is even being debated let alone considered.
Another urban rumor that has been dispelled. Hospitals don't go out of business because they have too many patients, they go out of business when they have too few. Old hospitals in declining areas go out of business because people with good health insurance (or wealthy) go to new modern better equipped hospitals to have their surgery.
Hospitals don't have to accept patients who can't pay (unless they are a charity) and don't have keep emergency rooms open.
Old hospitals close, old supermarkets close, old gas stations close, old theatres close, old restaurants close.....and it's always from too few customers, not too many.
"Oh, and keep moving to the left with comments about the evil "corporate interests". Sounding more like a Democrat every day."
Like that well known Leftist Teddy Roosevelt?
Nope. These sell outs and party before country, big government hacks will do nothing to stop this chaos. They will eventually kill this country if allowed to do so. All for the almighty buck.
Please DO keep posting that. A picture is worth a thousand words.
LOL!!!
BUMP!!!!
And that's more important to you than feeding your family? What traditions have immigrants taken away from you? Did immigrants take your rebel flag down? Did immigrants take prayer out of your schools? Did immigrants legalize abortion, invent quotas, legalize homosexuaL marriage?
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"Columbus is now a murderous, racist, genocidal nut."
Columbus day is an Italian immigrants' holiday, and Mexican laborers weren't the ones denegrating him, Northeastern liberal blue bloods were.
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"How about Christmas (thrown out as a white man's holiday). "
Felis Navida
Do you think immigrants such as Mexican Catholics are the cause of a loss of traditionalism? I think its our own third and fourth generation White Americans who have forgotten their roots and let go of their religions and cultures in exchange for the "anything goes" American culture. It is these Americans who push their "civil liberties" and try to eliminate God from our society.
Immigrants built this country, and the "melting pot" society helped shape who we were as a nation for many years before it was considered discriminatory to have a Christmas Vacation (only a Holiday Vacation is acceptable).
From what I know of immigrants in this nation, especially illegals, they do not have enough influence in this country to have changed its social course, and politicians certianly don't care to espouse them, since they will likely never become voters.
What Bush is doing is daring, and although this says nothing for the plan's effect on this nation, or the effectiveness of this plan, I believe he is really doing it from his heart. He loves this country and I'm sure he wishes the whole world can experience life in the greatest nation in the world. I believe he is genuinely sympathetic to the plight of illegal immigrants, no matter how undesirable most Americans think they are.
So no matter how much you disagree with the plan, let's try to refrain from some of the name-calling which I saw in some posts. Taking a stance like this on immigration is just a small piece of the fascinating presidency of George W. Bush, a president who did not run the country solely on strict ideology, but out of complete love for freedom, for God and for this nation, and for wishing to spread the "wealth" (not just in $, but in our freedom, our opportunity and our ideas) of America to all those who he can. He may not be perfect, but he's a great man with strong convictions who should be admired.
LOL!!
One thing I think would be a good idea would be to pass a law withholding federal funds from cities that have sanctuary rules, where the police can't ask about a suspects immigration status.
I want to go a step further . I want to start pushing people OUT of this country never mind making it easier for people to stay and get here. I mean making the US a few dozen million non native born people lighter. ALL immigration from the middle East should be stopped and STRICT rules for any other immigrant coming from anywhere else .
"Officials believed the disk may have been part of a terrorist plot. However, FBI officials said on Friday that there did not appear to be a terrorist threat connected to the computer disk. "
"In July, officials dismissed as untrue an Internet report that said a group of Middle Eastern men were recently caught trying to cross the border from Mexico. "
I've asked many posters many times and there has not been one single confirmed case of a terrorist jumping the southern border, even though over a hundred people who entered at official entry points with papers have been indicted or confirmed to be terrorist related. Right now the risks of border jumping far outweigh the risks of entering legally. That's a tribute to our border guards.
"Managers of such intrusion-sensitive operations are scrambling to protect their power plants, water plants and city and commercial buildings to address Homeland Security recommendations and secure their workers and infrastructure. But many are faced with the realization that the old standards they're using to protect the perimeter of their existing or planned facilities, such as the chain-link fence and traditional masonry, may no longer suffice.
yes, but added to your statement ..he's DEAD wrong on this issue..Seriously wrong , regardless of where his heart is on it. It's a DANGEROUS policy..PERIOD
Giving legal documents to people who's identity we cannot verify. It is insane.
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