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Yet, according to the U.S. Constitution (Article VI), which all of our elected and appointed officials have been sworn to uphold and defend, it is the Constitution which is the “supreme law of the land” — not trade agreements or treaties that conflict with the Constitution.


5 posted on 03/01/2005 1:31:02 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion and Euthanasia, Don't Democrats just kill ya! Kill babies, Save the Bears!!)
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6 posted on 03/01/2005 1:32:32 PM PST by Coleus (God gave us the right to life and self preservation and a right to defend ourselves and families)
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>>>it is the Constitution which is the “supreme law of the land” — not trade agreements or treaties that conflict with the Constitution.

Then why do we trade with China?


7 posted on 03/01/2005 1:44:14 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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it is the Constitution which is the “supreme law of the land” — not trade agreements or treaties that conflict with the Constitution.

After having taught American Government for many years and reading a lot of material on the Constitution by a lot of folks, both liberal and extremely conservative (John Birch Society among others) I have to conclude that the Founding Fathers built into the document a mechanism to allow the President to effectively fulfill his role as provided in the Constitution to negotiate with foreign nations. That mechanism is the treaty making powers. The proper oversight (the check and balance if you will) is of course the US Senate which can ratify a treaty or not. I think that the Framers found the possibility of a corrupt President to be credible, thus the need for Senate oversight. But I think they didn't and couldn't foresee the state of the nation as it appears to have become with globalization threatening as well as the degradation of the Bill of Rights, especially the 2nd Amendment. If they had seen that, they surely would have made the Bill of Rights much more specific and stronger.

11 posted on 03/01/2005 3:54:18 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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Yet, according to the U.S. Constitution (Article VI), which all of our elected and appointed officials have been sworn to uphold and defend, it is the Constitution which is the “supreme law of the land” — not trade agreements or treaties that conflict with the Constitution

Actually, as of right now treaties DO in fact supercede the Constitution. Bills introduced in the 1950's to rectify this were defeated.

It has been discussed here on Free Republic.

It is one reason not to ratify things like the Kyoto Accords. They would put the Congress and law enforcement into a hammerlock unless or until the US formally withdrew.

Best regards,

24 posted on 03/07/2005 5:39:45 AM PST by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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