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Navy photos of Submarine USS San Francisco in Dry Dock (you won't believe the extent of damage!)
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Posted on 01/27/2005 12:42:24 PM PST by Boot Hill

The amount of damage is simply staggering!

That this boat ever made it back to port is a tribute to its designers, builders, and especially to the crew and captain. How does America keep finding men like these?


High resolution version here


High resolution version here


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: grounding; guam; navy; ssn711; submarine; usssanfrancisco
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To: Pan_Yan

Take a look at this. Pretty nasty. This wasn't just a "routine" grounding. I'm guessing that they crashed into an underwater mountain moving at a pretty good clip.


421 posted on 01/27/2005 8:00:54 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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To: JeeperFreeper

Maybe the Air Force could learn a few lessons here. Most of the Air Force inventory is barely-flying junk and the corrupt people who run it are looking the other way because they're being wined and dined by corrupt contractors who are putting out parts that are barely a step above scrap metal. (And yes, I am in a position to know.)


422 posted on 01/27/2005 8:06:43 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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To: WildTurkey

They are the throttle valve controls. They control the flow of steam to the main engines, two big steam turbines connected to a common reduction gear and thence the shaft. The big wheel is the Ahead Throttle, turn it to the left (remember righty tighty - lefty loosey) and the sub goes forwards. The little wheel is the astern throttle, turn it to the left and the sub goes backwards. If I recall correctly there's a shaft torque indicator on that Steam Plant Control Panel (SPCP), it redlines at over 1 million foot pounds.


423 posted on 01/27/2005 8:08:56 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Late bump Tonk,Our Guys are hero's.


424 posted on 01/27/2005 8:12:30 PM PST by fatima (Go Eagles Go.Superbowl Baby (1 Corinthians 13:4-7).)
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To: SS Guy

I know what you mean. A good friend of mine served on the USS La Jolla. He is a special kind of person.


425 posted on 01/27/2005 8:22:55 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Is it merely a coincidence that ALLAH and SATAN both have five letters in their names?)
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To: Boot Hill
We? Not a higher power?

Yes, the Higher Power makes the man; America makes the man "like these."

426 posted on 01/27/2005 8:26:26 PM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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To: WildTurkey

For when they go home. They man the other one. But seriously - one is the up down and one is left right (port, starboard).


427 posted on 01/27/2005 8:40:58 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Boot Hill

I sent this to my Dad as he used to be in the Navy and then worked for NAVSEA for over 30 years. Whenever we watch movies with submarines, he points out the systems he worked on. Here is his reply to the photos I sent:

"Yes I have been following this sub--the USS San Francisco SSN 711--it hit an undersea seamount about 300 miles from Guam. Claims it was one of those uncharted types. I saw some video of the sub returning to Guam & then these photos in the SF shipyard drydock. Hard to believe they were able to stay afloat & not go down. The whole front end damage is where one of the main sonar transducer/hydrophones are located. The torpedo detection equipment ( the topside receiving hydrophones) I helped get approved for service use & in production & installed on every sub can be seen by the guy near the front of the sub--it is the black object protruding from the deck by his left side. "


428 posted on 01/27/2005 8:56:40 PM PST by Feiny (Gap-Toothed, Missing Link Troglodytes Delighted by Presidential Election Outcome)
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To: Doohickey

And this one!


429 posted on 01/27/2005 9:01:23 PM PST by El Gran Salseron ( The replies by this poster are meant for self-amusement only. Read at your own risk. :-))
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To: 1Old Pro

Yes, the drivers are harnessed for just this reason.


430 posted on 01/27/2005 9:04:12 PM PST by El Gran Salseron ( The replies by this poster are meant for self-amusement only. Read at your own risk. :-))
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To: Lazamataz

Why is the Navy showing pictures of the sub to the public ? I thought this kind of stuff was classified ?


431 posted on 01/27/2005 9:09:41 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Boot Hill
I have a little bit more experiance than the average fellow about this crash. I was onboard the USS Atlanta when it hit the bottom of the strait of Gilbraltar April 26 1986. Chernobyl blew up on the same day so that is why you have never heard of it. It smashed up the Sonar dome but after pulling into the British port of Gilbraltor it was decided that we could make it back to Norfolk, which we did, under a new captain.

The front of the sub is mostly a ballast tank which is why they survived and why this sub will be able to return to service. As for the shock it got from the collision messing things up further aft, this is a warship and it is designed for such shocks. I imagine they might have to straighted out a few things but I'd be surprised if this sub is not returned to service soon. If Clinton was still president they'd scrap it, just like what happened to my former, fully functional, sub.

432 posted on 01/27/2005 9:15:50 PM PST by Nateman (Carter:An embarassment to fellow nukes!)
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To: IMRight
"read that he's already been removed from command"

Yes, he has been relieved of command but that is standard operating procedure for the Navy while there is an ongoing investigation. It doesn't necessarily mean that he's toast. He's needed by the investigators to answer questions, etc.

433 posted on 01/27/2005 9:24:22 PM PST by El Gran Salseron ( The replies by this poster are meant for self-amusement only. Read at your own risk. :-))
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To: lafroste

If they followed operating envelope, over 500 feet.


434 posted on 01/27/2005 9:39:06 PM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: atomic_dog

They put those on in the early 90's (steam leak concerns--HA!).

Looks like they just took that pic with the door in place to keep from showing EVERYTHING, but normally we ran with just the chain in place.

Oh, the hours and days I spent in that middle chair, both at sea and in port...ZZZZZZZZZZ....


435 posted on 01/27/2005 9:42:48 PM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: AndyJackson

I made a crack about sonar girls a week ago and had this 6'4 250 lb ex STSSC threaten to come over to my house.

And he was gonna hit you with his purse, right? LOL


436 posted on 01/27/2005 9:46:46 PM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: WildTurkey
"Maybe a few "girlie-type" Sonar techs ..."

HEY! Watch it! :-)

STS2 ( SS )

437 posted on 01/27/2005 9:54:23 PM PST by El Gran Salseron ( The replies by this poster are meant for self-amusement only. Read at your own risk. :-))
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To: najida

The entire story is found at this link - copy it and paste it into your browser...
http://www.submarineresearch.com/bull39.html


438 posted on 01/27/2005 10:08:03 PM PST by ramehochko
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To: WildTurkey
We sneaked in and fired a flare at the carrier, went under it and "disappeard"

I was under the impression (wrong I guess) that carrier groups were pretty well protected. In a conflict, would our carriers be easily sunk by chinese or russian subs?

439 posted on 01/27/2005 10:42:23 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping!! Terrible accident and the guys who saved the sub are heroes!


440 posted on 01/27/2005 10:51:54 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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