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Posted on 01/27/2005 12:42:24 PM PST by Boot Hill
The amount of damage is simply staggering!
That this boat ever made it back to port is a tribute to its designers, builders, and especially to the crew and captain. How does America keep finding men like these?
My "old" boat had three compartments and even then, flooding aft could sink the boat as it would cause a nose up condition that would make the ballast tanks ineffective. Think of them as a bowl upside down and you tilt the bowl. Air washes out and water rushes in reducing the lift. New boats have only two compartments. Flooding in either (if not limited) will result in a sub on the bottom.
Thank you, Lord, for bringing this ship back to port.
He was "relieved of command", but I think your assertion regarding a "court martial" is correct, got a cite?
--Boot Hill
The USS AliveFish.
I saw his earlier post but didn't notice the name. He got a reputation and his wanderings writings were referred to as "south hacking".
Possibly, but right now we are on FR not at the "panel".
Hint, read the previous threads.
"Thank you, Lord, for bringing this ship back to port."
If you believe in Divine Intervention ...
Thank you, Lord, for ramming this boat into a sea mount and killing one fine sailor.
I did. I would show you to be wrong but I have no idea what you are referring to.
The entire statement if memory serves. Read the previous threads.
I am not trying to start a flame-war either. It would be counter productive for me to transcribe what others "in the know" have written for you when you are "in the know" as well.
"We don't find 'em, we make 'em."
We? Not a higher power?
--Boot Hill
God Bless the Crew of the San Fran! That could have EASILY been a death trap. It is amazing that they saved the ship!!! Act of God perhaps! DAMN. Just DAMN.
I have to say, though, that the most frightened I've ever been has been in P-3s. They're all so old, you never know what's going to happen.
We once were coming back from a mission, to land at Oceana. So we lose engine #2 about 1,000 miles out. No sweat, right? we got three more.
So the field is under heavy thunderstorms. The pilot elects to try it. Unbelievable turbulence and rain are our welcome. Then, on final, #3 eats its de-icing boot. We touched down with both engines feathered and damn near went off the runway.
Hell, I'm med-down right now for a knee injury I got on a flight last month, got tossed around in the airplane in heavy turbulence and ripped some cartilage. I've gotta get it scoped next month.
LOL, but from which "bottom"?
--Boot Hill
wow.
collision like that, I'm surprised there was only the one fatality.
I know can explain it beter than that! Of course they can stay submerged and travel with the MBT's flooded. That is the normal operational mode. They would still have their trim system working for ballast control and, as you mentioned, the planes.
Going to the surface just requires adjusting the planes and up you go. Now to "ride on the surface" you need to blow the ballast tanks. Photos show that they had a "continuous" blow on a forward ballast tank. (I put all this in for the others, not for your sake).
Tom Clancy, is that you?
--Boot Hill
One of the best ways of starting a flame war is to say someone is in error and then not tell him what the error is. I am sure I spent more time on those threads than you did and I am lost as to what you are referring to.
"I know can explain it beter than that! " >>>I know can YOU explain it betTer than that!
I wonder why there less compartments on newer boats? I hope there is a good reason for it. Being that vulnerable to sinking I hate to think what just one enemy torpedo could do.
the Kursk was ripped apart from the inside by a gangfire of its torp magazine. bit of a difference.
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