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Suicidal man charged with 11 counts of murder in train derailment
The Daily Bulletin ^ | Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 10:07:47 AM PST | Lisa Mascaro, Staff Writer

Posted on 01/27/2005 10:28:27 AM PST by Smogger

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1 posted on 01/27/2005 10:28:27 AM PST by Smogger
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To: Smogger

Sorry I also have no sympathy for this guy.

He should just be put back on the train tracks and let the next one run over him.


2 posted on 01/27/2005 10:30:14 AM PST by WestCoastGal (Daytona 500 ~~ 25 more days!!! 17 days to the Shootout ~~ WooHoo)
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To: Smogger
On the boob tube this a.m., I guess you have heard of suicide by cop, well the outstanding reporter said: "Local train officials have a term for this type of incident. They call it 'Suicide by Train.'"

REALLY!!!! I am just stunnded!!!

3 posted on 01/27/2005 10:31:56 AM PST by RetiredArmy (The Democratic Party would make Uncle Joe Stalin Proud!)
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To: Smogger

For the sake of his own family members he should have stayed in the Jeep. What an unmitagated selfish Bastard.


4 posted on 01/27/2005 10:33:17 AM PST by Pompah (The price of greatness is responsibility)
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No sympathy for this idiot. All he had to do was drive the SUV off the tracks but all he did was jump and run. I just cannot figure why he didn't just drive off. It boggles the mind and elicits no feelings of sympathy from me for this idiot.


5 posted on 01/27/2005 10:34:39 AM PST by MadAnthony1776 ("liberalism" = "do as I say, not as I do")
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To: Smogger

Just out of curiosity, have any media outlets or law enforcement authorities reported yet whether this guy is an American citizen or an illegal alien?


6 posted on 01/27/2005 10:36:28 AM PST by jpl (Islam is a religion of peace, as in "Rest in Peace".)
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Watch. In Californistan they will charge the SUV and drop charges against its driver..


7 posted on 01/27/2005 10:37:22 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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I'm really surpised that a Jeep would cause a train derailment. I would think a train would just knock a vehicle off the track.


8 posted on 01/27/2005 10:37:32 AM PST by marvlus
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Juan Manuel Alvarez, of Compton...

Aren't there places in Compton to commit suicide?! Why did he go to Glendale, to kill some Yuppies with him?!

It's sad to say but he could have made it easier on himself if he had simply walked up to a really mean gang-banger and said "Please shoot me!" At least 11 people would still be alive now and he wouldn't have to wait 20 years to get exectuted in the California Prision system.

9 posted on 01/27/2005 10:38:28 AM PST by Tamar1973 (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats-- PJ O'Rourke)
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Sounds like a winning game plan for terrorists, doesn't it?
10 posted on 01/27/2005 10:40:33 AM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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The train was vertical on the front. For some reason, they don't put "cow catchers" on them anymore. If the train had some sort of thing like that, the jeep would have been tossed to the side of the tracks rather than under the engine which caused the derailment.


11 posted on 01/27/2005 10:41:04 AM PST by Paloma_55
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To: marvlus
I'm really surpised that a Jeep would cause a train derailment. I would think a train would just knock a vehicle off the track.

I wondered about that too, but most of these commuter trains don't have a heavy locomotive pulling it like Amtrack or the freight trains have and they also don't go as fast because they have more frequent stops.

If that had been an Amtrack train, there would have been nothing left of the SUV and the people on the train, except in the front cars would have even noticed there was a problem until they realised they were making an unscheduled stop for police investigation.

12 posted on 01/27/2005 10:41:28 AM PST by Tamar1973 (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats-- PJ O'Rourke)
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Do not take this terrorists word for his motive. It's pretty obvious that it was his job to drop an SUV in the way of the trains.


13 posted on 01/27/2005 10:41:40 AM PST by muawiyah (Egypt didn't invent planning and zoning either, but they did discover trigonometry)
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To: atomicpossum

It sure does. I would use a propane truck or a gasoline truck, though. First thing that came to my mind after witnessing the massive carnage.


14 posted on 01/27/2005 10:42:05 AM PST by Smogger
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To: WestCoastGal

I don't think he was trying to commit suicide.

I think he was trying to lay a HUGE guilt trip on his ex-wife and take out a lot of innocent people with his frustration.

If he *really* wanted to commit suicide, he would have succeeded.

He could have simply put some electric wires in his mouth and plugged it into a wall. He could have driven his jeep at 75 into a concrete bridge pillar. Many ways to kill yourself without taking others in the process...


15 posted on 01/27/2005 10:43:36 AM PST by Paloma_55
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To: Smogger

Just another nice hardworking immigrant.


16 posted on 01/27/2005 10:44:55 AM PST by petercooper (Liberalism = Idealism; Conservatism = Realism)
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As despondent as this guy may have been....he still got out of the car...he didn't want to die....this shows to me that he was still lucid. So I say put him in prison and to work paying off the financial debt to the city from all the emergency personnel on scene as well as the families he ruined.

This is a case of one person's very, very bad decision which in turn affects probably 1000s of other people. Full responsibility needs to be taken....

17 posted on 01/27/2005 10:46:06 AM PST by BossLady
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Glendale Mayor Bob Yousefian urged the federal government to provide funding to enhance grade crossings, while expressing shock and sadness at the tragedy.

urging federal funding and expressing shock and sadness at the same time......quite talented individual


18 posted on 01/27/2005 10:47:17 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: petercooper

I didn't see anything in the article that indicated he was an immigrant. Lots of folks in CA with hispanic names who have several generations of native-born ancestors.


19 posted on 01/27/2005 10:47:46 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1329906/posts

See post 8 of this thread.

20 posted on 01/27/2005 10:48:38 AM PST by quack
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