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A Sourpuss? Moi? [Peggy Noonan responds to her last column on the inaugural speech]
WSJ - Opinion Journal ^ | 1-26-05 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 01/27/2005 2:08:34 AM PST by bellevuesbest

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To: RobFromGa

"I think that Peggy is jealous that she didn't get chosen to write the speech for Bush"

I think you're jealous of Noonan.

Good. Goose. Gander.


101 posted on 01/27/2005 4:51:11 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: rcofdayton
We should be engaged but Bush's vision will lead to the loss of more privacy and civil liberties. I am glad we invaded Iraq. Let's finish the job there and Afghanistan; that's quite enough.

And defend Taiwan and Japan from China.

102 posted on 01/27/2005 4:51:52 AM PST by Paul_Denton (Shoot first and ask questions later)
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To: Paul_Denton
But I wonder what caused her to go to the dark side?

Spending too much time with the foaming-at-the-mouth Liberals and alleged "Conservatives" on MSNBC and living in a cozy enclave deep inside a blue state. She's basically lost touch with the very same Americans she spent so many years defending in her articles to one degree or another.

103 posted on 01/27/2005 4:53:31 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: bellevuesbest

Peggy really has a high opinion of herself doesn't she. Looks like Peggy is morphing into one of the journalistic elites....like we care what she says....Peggy, darling, we will take your views into consideration....but we will not live by them.


104 posted on 01/27/2005 4:54:09 AM PST by smiley
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To: Miss Marple; Iowa Granny

Okay! Thanks Jane. I did, BTW, when going thru my tape of the I-Day speech, come across Peggy's remarks on Fox directly after the speech, listened carefully & found the whole affair puzzling, to say the least!!


105 posted on 01/27/2005 4:54:13 AM PST by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*)
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To: KateatRFM

It is a very provocative statement....Others have explained their disapproval of Bush's speech in far less offensive terms.

It jumped right out at me.


106 posted on 01/27/2005 4:55:22 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Fenris6
Powerline summed it up best: "If our tent isn't large enough to hold Noonan, then we're in trouble"

Interesting thinking on the part of Powerline. I'd like to follow their train of thought a little bit....

When Peggy is halfway out the left flap of the tent, can we finally assume she is running for public office or for some job that is usually held by liberals?

107 posted on 01/27/2005 4:56:17 AM PST by syriacus (The whole World will be watching the Rice SMEARINGS as Condi is blamed for every "error" since 2001)
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To: bellevuesbest
Yes. But words have meaning.

Metaphor Peggy...quit digging.

I did exciting and I hope helpful work at considerable financial loss.

Soooo sorry. Your writing is intellectually bankrupting you.

108 posted on 01/27/2005 4:56:26 AM PST by PGalt (A column of my column is my friend?)
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To: MEG33
But when they are removed, the garbage--the freelance terrorists, the grievance merchants, the ethnic nationalists--pops out all over.

Makes it sound as if the garbage does not stink as long as we hold our noses. The lid always comes off and chaos is alway one of the potential results. Why not have a plan for removing the lid and avoiding the chaos?

109 posted on 01/27/2005 4:57:01 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: MEG33; fortunecookie; cyborg
"Here is an unhappy fact: Certain authoritarians and tyrants whose leadership is illegitimate and unjust have functioned in history as--ugly imagery coming--garbage-can lids on their societies. They keep freedom from entering, it is true. But when they are removed, the garbage--the freelance terrorists, the grievance merchants, the ethnic nationalists--pops out all over. Yes, freedom is good and to be strived for. But cleaning up the garbage is not pretty. And it sometimes leaves the neighborhood in an even bigger mess than it had been."

I'm stunned with that quote. Ronald Reagan would NOT approve.

I'm done with Peggy Noonan. If she is to be at all appealing to me in the future, it will have to be after some kind of redemptive moment and new birth.

110 posted on 01/27/2005 4:58:15 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

What is "equality for all"?


111 posted on 01/27/2005 4:58:42 AM PST by petitfour
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To: RobFromGa
I think that Peggy is jealous that she didn't get chosen to write the speech for Bush

Good point. Do we know anything about her previous interactions with the folks who helped Bush with his speech?

112 posted on 01/27/2005 4:59:43 AM PST by syriacus (The whole World will be watching the Rice SMEARINGS as Condi is blamed for every "error" since 2001)
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To: syriacus

"When Peggy is halfway out the left flap of the tent, can we finally assume... "

Assume all you want dear. These threads bashing Noonan remind me of why we are called the "stupid party". We always manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - probably b/c we have you and your kind to show us the way.

"halfway out the left flap". LOL. I also found Bush's speech to be over-reaching. You going to consign me to the Gulag too?


113 posted on 01/27/2005 5:00:03 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: bellevuesbest
In all the questions she "answered", she didn't touch on the number one question people are asking:

Dear Peggy: Are you jealous?

114 posted on 01/27/2005 5:01:13 AM PST by samtheman
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To: edskid
Schizophrenia is not your friend.

Actually, for this person it may be his only friend(s).

115 posted on 01/27/2005 5:01:13 AM PST by jennyjenny
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To: Fenris6
"If our tent isn't large enough to hold Noonan, then we're in trouble"

If she rolls out of the GOP fold, I won't shed a tear. I didn't cry in my beer with Jumpin' Jim defected, nor did I wallow in misery when Arianna Huffington defected into stupidity literally and figuratively.

People come, people go. There is no need to eulogize, or feel sorry, or think the world is going to come to a screeching end over those who have left for one reason or another. That's the nature of politics.

116 posted on 01/27/2005 5:01:38 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: syriacus

"I think that Peggy is jealous that she didn't get chosen to write the speech for Bush"

"Good point."

No - its a stupid point. If you knew anything about speech writing, you would know that the writers are already in place, usually on staff. Noonan had about as much expectation of writing that speech as you or me.

"Do we know anything about her previous interactions with the folks who helped Bush with his speech?"

Gee, maybe you could raid her garbage can for "proof" she is a dissadent. Or perhaps Monty Python's Float Test for Witches. You people amaze me.


117 posted on 01/27/2005 5:03:12 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: MEG33

i think you hit the nail on the head, her criticism of the speech WAS more offensive than that of other's and i think that is what has bothered me the most about it. the tone of this current column is more than a little defensive. she doesn't LIKE criticism herself, apparently.


118 posted on 01/27/2005 5:04:56 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: bellevuesbest
And we must do nothing that provides our foes with ammunition with which they can accuse us of conceit, immaturity or impetuousness.

Okay, who is this broad, and what has she done with the real Peggy Noonan?

119 posted on 01/27/2005 5:07:15 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: MEG33
Some people have no capacity for self governance and must be led by authoritarian means or tyrants.

No...some people refuse to accept the results of an election or the validity of the outcome and need to be dispatched with extreme prejudice...in very large numbers.

120 posted on 01/27/2005 5:07:33 AM PST by DCPatriot (I don't do politically correct very well either.)
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