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Judge denies logging halt of fire-killed trees
AP ^ | 1/26 | JEFF BARNARD

Posted on 01/26/2005 6:14:21 PM PST by SmithL

GRANTS PASS, Ore. -- A federal judge has denied a request to halt logging within the 2002 Biscuit fire brought by environmentalists who claimed the U.S. Forest Service failed to protect hundreds of dead trees that should have been left standing for salmon habitat.

Deferring to the scientific expertise of the Forest Service on what trees should be left standing to protect streams, U.S. District Judge Michael Hogan in Eugene ruled that claims brought by the Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics were not serious, and they were unlikely to win in a trial.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: environment; environuts; logging; oregon; smokedsalmon; whackos
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1 posted on 01/26/2005 6:14:22 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

The loony left environutjobz..

The gift that just keeps on giving.


2 posted on 01/26/2005 6:15:50 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: SmithL

Good thing I read the entire article before commenting. I read the excerpt and was thinking that I had never heard of salmon living in trees.


3 posted on 01/26/2005 6:18:21 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: SmithL
Good for this judge. We are at a point where we know how to log forests. They're just a crop like corn.

It probably won't be long before enviroweenies try to throw themselves in front of other farm equipment in order to save the plants.

In this case, DEAD ONES.

4 posted on 01/26/2005 6:20:04 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Coho Conifers


5 posted on 01/26/2005 6:23:43 PM PST by digger48
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To: SmithL

brought by environmentalists who claimed the U.S. Forest Service failed to protect hundreds of dead trees that should have been left standing for salmon habitat.


Environmentalists USED to be good people. Now they're too far gone to retrieve! They want the Forest Service to protect DEAD TREES, instead of the LIVE FOREST! Dead trees in the forest are a major fire just waiting to happen!

Should have been left STANDING for salmon habitat? When was the last time you saw a fish climb a tree????

Take the dead trees down, and deliver them to the environmentalist idiots. They can use them for toilet paper!


6 posted on 01/26/2005 6:25:15 PM PST by Just Lori (There! I said it!)
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To: digger48

Hello?!

What was I thinking?


7 posted on 01/26/2005 6:26:58 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Good thing I read the entire article before commenting. I read the excerpt and was thinking that I had never heard of salmon living in trees.

I read the whole thing and still can't understand how salmon live in dead trees. 

8 posted on 01/26/2005 6:27:41 PM PST by SolidRedState (Free Martha)
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To: SmithL

It's the stump that hinders erosion and a stump will stay in place after logging. A standing dead tree eventually may fall, uprooting the stump, and possibly blocking the stream and creating more erosion.


9 posted on 01/26/2005 6:30:24 PM PST by digger48
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To: SolidRedState

It's an indirect effect.

"At issue were regulations requiring the Forest Service to leave behind dead trees along streams and intermittent channels to prevent erosion that chokes salmon spawning beds and to provide large woody debris that creates resting places for fish in the water."


10 posted on 01/26/2005 6:30:44 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: Dog Gone
..won't be long before enviroweenies try to throw themselves in front of other farm equipment in order to save the plants.

good riddance.

11 posted on 01/26/2005 6:38:49 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Yeah, I like the large woody debris in a bass lake, too.

Makes great habitat.

But PETA won't let us fish anymore, poor fishies feel pain.

I wonder how many fish, salmon included, woul dnot be around anymore if not for fishermen.

Sorry... off subject.


12 posted on 01/26/2005 6:57:18 PM PST by SolidRedState (Free Martha)
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To: farmfriend


13 posted on 01/26/2005 7:01:05 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: SolidRedState

"Sorry... off subject."

Ummmm.....Not really.

The enviros' refuse to accept the fact that there is a tax built into every sporting goods purchase (in MN, at least) that goes towards everything from wetlands to hatcheries. Rods, reels, line, bullets...... all contribute to wildlife. Game, as well as non-game.


14 posted on 01/26/2005 7:06:34 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: SmithL; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; AMDG&BVMH; amom; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
15 posted on 01/26/2005 7:10:14 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulations. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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To: Spanaway Lori

When was the last time you saw a fish climb a tree????




If you ever go fishing with me you will see a lot of casts that are in the trees!


16 posted on 01/26/2005 7:18:46 PM PST by AlbertWang
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To: AlbertWang

If you ever go fishing with me you will see a lot of casts that are in the trees!

I believe it, but I'll bet there are no fish attached!

However, I almost drowned once, caught in a tree. The tree WAS in the water, however. I climbed it.


17 posted on 01/26/2005 7:24:05 PM PST by Just Lori (There! I said it!)
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To: SmithL
Salmon, like most river fish, 'breed', or deposit their roe, in sandy areas and gravel, so the claim that erosion will destroy their breeding areas is bunk. I guess these idiots never fished!
18 posted on 01/26/2005 7:26:21 PM PST by RetroWarrior ('I will guard my post from flank to flank and take no 'crap' from any rank')
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To: RetroWarrior; farmfriend
"deposit their roe"

Is that kinda like "roe v wade"?

19 posted on 01/26/2005 10:31:26 PM PST by SierraWasp (Moderates, are just too chicken to commit to any ideal!!! They prefer sophisticated sophistry...)
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To: farmfriend

BTTT!!!!!!


20 posted on 01/27/2005 3:04:52 AM PST by E.G.C.
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