Here's your conclusion: "The belief that without God there is right and wrong is illogical."
Are you saying that coming to this conclusion, based on the absence of hearing anything is logical?
Perfectly logical. No one can tell me why it matters what they do if there is no God, therefore I must conclude that my conclusion was correct.
But I have already told you, I'll keep an open mind. I withdraw if you can explain why it is. I notice you didn't answer, but instead changed the subject back to my conclusion. Make your case,,,,if you can.