Posted on 01/23/2005 5:51:32 AM PST by timydnuc
I just finished watching this dangling drip of snot called "The Fog of War" staring the Strange one himself Robert Strange McNamera and I am one p#ssed off Ranger. This entire film was a presentation to vindicate Robert Strange McNamera from the guilt he and Landslide Lyndon shared in the indecision that cost the lives of 58,000 men in Vietnam. By simplly listening to the taped conversations between those two traitors you can tell who got left behind........WE DID, and they could have cared less.
If you really want to see this garbage then go ahead, but be careful, you'll need an emesis basin. Bobby boy is a very guilty man, and it shows, but his blatent liberalism shows as well. He portrays himself as a victim not as the cowardly bastard that he really was. The most worthless pantload to ever serve as Secretary of Defense gets about an hour and a half to show how he killed 25,000 men (His quote. At the end of his tenure 25K had died, but he was responsible for all 58K).
I'm sick and tired of these idiots trying to blame everybody else for their cowardace. Take the blame or shut up! He also attemps to besmerch the name of Curtis LaMay. To all you Nam vets, don't watch, make love to your wife, fix a chair, go hunting, do something else. This drivel is a waste of our time.
Robert Strange McNamara will join LBJ you know where when he assumes room temperature....or maybe he's already there. God forgives everything, but surely He has an outhouse somewhere where he can stick these two for all of eternity.
It takes great intelligence (meaning smarts or ability to pass exams) to do such stupid things.
I suggest that taking a piss on anything in Arlington would be a very bad idea. Moreover, I really suggest you not piss on the beret, if there is still one there. Considering what came later, JFK was was a lesser evil. However, if the bury Clinton in Arlington, I'll have to rethink the above.
Thanks for your input.
I rented the DVD and sat through the entire thing. You have to do that to really get a feel for what is commonly known as the banality of evil. He treats casualties of war as so much fodder for statistical analysis. As a Vietnam veteran I felt like throwing something through the TV as I watched this man turn war into a quaint little philosphical riddle. Thousands died because he had no moral guide.
No tears for Diem either, wonder if JFK felt that cold
shiver of premonition when he heard the news.
Coup and assassination
When the regime turned on a protest by Buddhist monks in June 1963, the U.S. stopped giving aid. A small number of monks had immolated themselves in public protest, and the U.S. grew intensely annoyed with Diem's unpopular public image. In their defense, Diem and Nhu claimed that the Communists had infiltrated the Buddhist groups, and that their crackdown was in accordance with the agreed-upon anti-Communist policy. Madame Nhu infamously referred to the incident as a 'barbequeing'.
U.S. Ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge refused to meet with Diem and began to encourage ARVN Generals led by General Duong Van Minh that overthrew the government and ordered Captain Nhung to execute President Diem, his younger brother Ngo Dinh Nhu, on November 1, 1963.
The U.S leadership had publicly expressed shock and disappointment that Diem had been killed, but records show that they made no attempts to dissuade the plotters from such an action, and were not surprised with the coup. It could be said that America's reticence to intervene in the coup gave lie to the idea that the U.S. was wantonly propping up such 'puppet regimes'.
At the time of the coup d'etat Madame Nhu was in Beverly Hills, California with her daughter, Le Thuy, for a trip to the United States and Italy, where she intended to expose a scheming President John F. Kennedy and the CIA to the American public.
When Madame Nhu learned of the coup d'etat she immediately suspected the United States saying, "Whoever has the Americans as allies does not need enemies". Madame Nhu went on to predict a dark future for Vietnam and that, by being involved in the coup, the troubles of the United States in Vietnam were only begining.
U.S. President John F. Kennedy was soon after assassinated as well. The new President Lyndon Johnson would pursue the strategy of creating a "proxy war" in Vietnam with far more gusto than Kennedy had shown, confirming Nhu's predictions.
LOL Yep. But there were TWO of us! `Course, the other guy got caught by the medics and Sectioned 8. One of my buddies always said that the reason I got shot in the jaw was so I'd keep my dumb mouth shut.
I hope "Strange" decides to be buried at the Johnson Ranch so I can urinate on their graves at the same time.
It's time for liberty and it's time for tyrants to die.
Ahh, you've just met director Errol Morris, Eternal Lefty.
Take a walk, have a scotch, smoke a cig . . . whatever blows off your steam. Most importantly, understand that only the left cares about that cinematic sputum.
Rent "Paths of War," a much better look at the moral pliability of the Johnson Administration.
Ach!
It's "Path to War."
I agree with you about the urination thing. The only grave I want to p!ss on is that of The Former Impeached President BJ (Blow Job) Clinton. I'm drinkin' beer and holding my water for that one. And he will NEVER be buried in Arlington, not as long as there is one military vet left in these here United States.
"He was a lousy president!"
But piss on his flame? Jeez, no vet deserves that. Good or bad he died serving this country.
I am a vet and he pissed on me. But I guess that you are right(about the piss). Just move him to a regular Vet's gravesite.
Were you there for Tet? Were you there for Hue/Tet? You sound damned familiar. I was Doc and a Ranger in the Nam and in Hue. Don't disparage ole' Doc, he's your buddy.
Excellant! Historical perspective is very important. The left will try to stop the truth, we need to keep the truth in front of the American people.
I never, never disparage combat medics! Got there in early 69. Got Million $ wound during the fighting outside Ripcord in July,70. But we may know some of the same guys.
RSM gave us the Ford Falcon.
Old "Zero Sum" McN. Is he still trying to send a signal?
There are only a few of us left and we still fight for our country. Amasing, isn't it. I guess we were trained better that we thought we were.
God bless you old salt. Lock and load, we may have to do this again.
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