Posted on 01/23/2005 4:47:17 AM PST by ResistorSister
Its called hyperparathyroidism, and many of us dialysis patients eventually must cope with it. Its important to control it, or painful bone problems will develop.
My doc, after taking all the usual remedial steps, says I need a new drug, the first that alleviates the problem. Fine, write me a script.
James, youre not going to want to hear this, my druggist said.
It costs $13.35.
Thats cheap, I said.
Per pill.
What? Thats $400, per month, for the rest of my life. I could mortgage a house for that, or lease a Cadillac.
I left without them. In the car, it hit me: corporate greed, golden faucets in the drug-company restrooms, executives taking home more in a week than I make in a year.
I had to do something, so I hit the Internet. The greed thing simply did not wash. The company is not exactly rolling in dough. Its stock hasnt budged for three years. It doesnt pay a dividend. You could make more money on a bank savings account.
So how did we get to $13.35? More Internet research. I deep scanned the companys SEC statements and financials.
Its a new drug with limited potential users. Company officials had to pay for many years of research, liability insurance and field trials and then FDA approval, with zero cash coming in. They have only a few years to sell it at full price before it goes generic.
Now they must sell the pills to countries with socialized medicine where costs are controlled by laws instead of the free market. Thats where the big rub takes place for us.
Americans are picking up the worldwide costs of medications, their development, testing, manufacture and some profit to keep the company in business and employees working. Other countries are not paying their fair share, nowhere close.
Its insane, but its happening with all drugs. Americans are subsidizing the worlds medicine cabinets, rich countries including Canada. Then Canada resells them to us. Neat trick.
What to do? Write your congressman? Lets pass a law like the others have, cutting prescription prices to affordable prices? Twenty-five cents a pill sounds good.
So Congress does that, and there goes this company and the industry.
(I did check on getting the pills in Canada. That countrys government is close to shutting off the pipeline to the States. They dont want to knock out the American drug industry. They want to keep their own good deal, and keep us paying for it here).
If the world were a logical place, perhaps these countries would be picking up their fair share of drug prices. Like fun. Governments control prices, not the market. No politician over there ever would increase drug prices just to help us. They prefer to squeeze the fat cats us. What a surprise.
My case has a silver lining. I have prescription insurance. We called them, and after the sticker shock subsided, they agreed to cover all but $30 a month to keep me walking, mowing the grass and hopefully free from a future of terrible bone pain.
What about the folks not on Medicaid and without insurance? What a scary thought. The $400 would be more than crippling. Thats crippling on their family budgets and crippling on their bodies, too. Its enough to make even healthy people very sick. My druggist says its happening all the time. So far, nobody has a solution, just rhetoric, and we all know what thats worth.
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But here's the question. Is there anyone here who, if they could sell their product in country y for $10 and in country x for $1, both at a profit, wouldn't do it?
I will speculate on one reason why drugs here are so high; there's no free market. I suspect that a large percentage of all American's get all or part of their prescriptions paid for by insurance that's paid for by their employer. Thus they have no concept of what any aspect of medical care costs.
Like withholding tax, if they had to write out a check for the full amount, there would be a free market revolt.
And the US consumer makes up that difference,(i.e subsidizing canadian consumers.)
When you have a monopoly there is no "market" price, since without regulation you get to set the price. The question that remains unanswered is the comparison between the selling price and the cost of production, including full cost recovery over some reasonable number of years.
Not entirely they aren't. And that's the part that ticking me off.
It happened during the Toon admin. Why do you think?
Their approval occurred during Toon's tenure. I'll bet a lot of drugs got pushed through PDQ.
1 Pfizer 4450 2 GlaxoSmithKline 3555 3 AstraZeneca 2655 4 Aventis 2579 5 Merck & Co. 2456 5 Johnson & Johnson 2456 7 Bristol-Myers Squibb 2140 8 Novartis 2130 9 Eli Lilly 2125 10 Pharmacia Corporation 2085
Of these, GlaxoSmithKline, Aventis, and Novartis are headquartered in Europe. Since 2001, Pfizer and Pharmacia have merged. Also Aventis and Sanofi have merged.
Of course, all these are huge multi-national corporations, and the European companies have large US operations and R&D labs. The US companies also have large operations and R&D labs in Europe. The industry has consolidated rapidly over the past few years, with companies on both sides of the Atlantic acquiring each other.
You asked. I doubt if 2004-5 will be less .
"The pharmaceutical industry is one of the most R&D-intensive sectors in Canada. In 2000, Canada's brand-name pharmaceutical industry spent almost $1 billion on R&D. About 20% of this was on basic research conducted in company research facilities as well as across Canada in universities, hospitals and laboratories, and about 65% went to clinical research. In 2001 Canada accounted for 10% of the global new medicines discovered, despite representing only 1.8% of the world pharmaceutical market."
http://www.innovation.gc.ca/gol/innovation/site.nsf/en/in02587.html
Indeed, folks want miracle drugs to save their LIVES, for pete's sake, and then they squawk about the cost. Well, what IS your life worth?
Hey, look. Some drugs are just too expensive to pay the US price on. If the choice is between buying a foreign drug import at reduced price or not buying the drug at all, I don't see the problem with importation.
Supposedly, the problem comes with substitution - when people buy the foreign versions of drugs they'd buy anyway.
I don't see this as a major problem. The market is just going through an arbitrage phase. There are plenty of foreign and university-based development programs. Buying cheaper drugs from Canada or anywhere else will hardly stop drug development in America or anywhere else. That's something a profiteer would say when he realizes his huge margins are coming under threat.
The government has already shot its credibility on this issue by warning that drugs from Canada might somehow be 'dangerous.' That's pretty funny, I remember living in the Yukon for a bit and taking some Canadian meds, and I'm still alive!
Sorry, the figures in the right hand column are in Millions of $.
I'm not sure which category sales comes out of? A relative of mine works in a clinic. On many days she does not have to buy lunch because the drug company salesmen bring them free food.
My own physician has expressed annoyance at the drug sales teams wasting his time and the time of his staff. On the other hand, I've also been given free samples on a number of occasions.
"Get used to it America your being ripped off by drug companies half of which are based in Europe."
It is time for We The People to wake up and realize what is really going on here - the drug company/FDA/AMA cartel is doing it to us. Who is responsible? Start with the Rockefellers et al - the money behind the money.
We get high prices for drugs we do not need, but the doctors prescribe them because the drug companies tell them to do so - Viaoxx, Bextra, Celebrex come to mind as examples. These disasters will cost drug companies $100 billion. What they have done with these should result in criminal prosecutions.
Wake up people - they are killing us and making us pay for it.
Because the liability lawyers in the U.S. have made it impossible for you to determine your own cost to benefit ratio. Most of these drugs deliver lots of benefit to lots of people, but, in rare cases they cause problems.
The U.S. liability lawyers have sold the soccer moms on the idea that risk can equal zero, so when *any* measurable risk shows up, if the drug doesn't solve a life threatening issue, it has to be taken off the market or the company is bankrupted, no matter how small the risk.
I'm not sure where the US drugs come from these days. Puerto Rico used to be a big production center, and it probably still is, due to the tax breaks for moving production there.
My guess is that much of the production of higher volume has moved off-shore. I think that India is becoming a big production location.
Lastly, the precursor chemicals are likely to be sourced off-shore, even if the last steps in synthesis are done in the US.
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