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Robber pulls gun at Bowie store, but worker is quicker on the draw (Texas abductor shooting)
Arizona Daily Star ^ | 01/22/05 | Ignacio Ibarra

Posted on 01/22/2005 6:07:33 AM PST by IonImplantGuru

About 6 a.m. Friday, investigators say, Williams pulled into the Mountain View RV Park in Bowie driving Holden's pickup truck. He went inside a convenience store on the property where he pulled out a gun and demanded money, said Carol Capas, a spokeswoman for the Cochise County Sheriff's Department.

"He said, 'This is robbery. I want all the money in the cash register,' " store worker Richie Chapman said. "And as he said that, he drew a weapon from underneath his shirt, and I drew and fired."

"If he had gotten a shot off, I would have been dead," said Chapman, a retired New York firefighter who carries a .45-caliber automatic. "And I have no qualms about it, that I think he would have shot me."

Chapman "felt threatened, and pulled out his own gun and shot the man one time," Capas said.

Investigators said Williams ran to the truck and drove away. A short time later, as he traveled east on Interstate 10, Williams pulled over and began flagging down passing motorists.

When deputies arrived at the area where Williams was flagging down motorists, they were told by someone that the man had driven himself to Northern Cochise Community Hospital in Willcox.

Capas said Williams was treated at the hospital before being released to FBI agents Friday.

(Excerpt) Read more at azstarnet.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2ndammendment; 45caliberautomatic; bang; banglist; justice; selfdefense; texasabduction
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To: IonImplantGuru

There is no telling the crime spree that this fine man prevented.


41 posted on 01/22/2005 8:22:00 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Certified cause of Post Traumatic Redhead Syndrome)
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To: Condor51

I don't suppose you remember the .22 long rifle revolver thread or the .45 auto revolver thread. There were a lot of posters who were confused.

All in all, correct terminology no matter who said it.


42 posted on 01/22/2005 8:39:19 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: Bean Counter

Arrghhh! That's sick. I am increasingly convinced that the MSM is humanity's number one enemy. The other enemies of civilization would have far less power and effect without their apologetic propaganda.


43 posted on 01/22/2005 8:51:00 AM PST by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

You are more than 100% correct. I was cop in '78 and was jumped by a guy with a pool stick who had 7 backups. After splitting my skull open, I pulled, shot "side handed, and went to finish him off (double Tap style), and would have shot my own foot off. Two of the guys with him threw down Saturday Night Specials and a third threw down a butcher knife. When it goes down you must have the ability to kill and NEVER doubt. Many guys on a range I associate with THINK they can kill, but would hesitate... thereby nullifying the entire reason why they practice.


44 posted on 01/22/2005 8:56:27 AM PST by Safetgiver (Mud slung is ground lost.)
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To: gortklattu
He got hit with a .45 and walked away? Where did he get hit, in the pinkie?

Maybe he was gut shot. Always fatal, just takes a few hours to a day to die.

45 posted on 01/22/2005 8:58:16 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: BraveMan

LOL!


46 posted on 01/22/2005 9:01:19 AM PST by expatpat
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To: daybreakcoming
Has anyone ever heard what part of his scummy body was shot?

Local media has it as 'in the shoulder'. Part of the TV interview showed a bullet hole in a cinderblock of the store. He was either using jacketed rounds and it was a 'flesh wound', or our hero missed with one round.

47 posted on 01/22/2005 9:19:16 AM PST by IonImplantGuru (PhD, School of Hard Knocks)
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To: Jazzman1

Have to go through AZ to get to CA from TX. Heh, heh, heh.


48 posted on 01/22/2005 9:24:46 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2004, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: IonImplantGuru

Thanks - I had been scouring the news for that info. So.....the b###### cold-bloodedly shoots a young girl to death, leaves her in a ditch and then carries himself whimpering into an ER with a flesh wound. Even Texas justice is not going to be enough for this one. A shame his wound can't somehow get infected with that flesh-eating bacteria.


49 posted on 01/22/2005 9:27:17 AM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: Rome2000

"If this happened in NYC he would not have been able to carry a weapon and would have been at the sick SOB's mercy"

Yeah, and very dead !

Shame NYers have to leave home to carry a weapon.


50 posted on 01/22/2005 9:28:32 AM PST by EDINVA (a FReeper in PJ's beats a CBS anchor in a suit every time)
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To: IonImplantGuru

"Investigators said Williams ran to the truck and drove away. A short time later, as he traveled east on Interstate 10, Williams pulled over and began flagging down passing motorists.

When deputies arrived at the area where Williams was flagging down motorists, they were told by someone that the man had driven himself to Northern Cochise Community Hospital in Willcox. "

If only he had been shot with the mighty 45 he would never have made it out the door ...


51 posted on 01/22/2005 9:30:48 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Have to go through AZ to get to CA from TX. Heh, heh, heh.

I would hope our New Mexico bretheren would have done all of us the same favor - if they had been given the opportunity. Who knows?

One thought that I have is that Bowie (shooting scene) is border desperado (i.e., illegal entrants and their coyotes) country and a lot of folks are prepared for whatever might go down.

Kind of like the Boy Scout motto, you know?

52 posted on 01/22/2005 9:36:10 AM PST by IonImplantGuru (PhD, School of Hard Knocks)
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To: mad_as_he$$
I drew my brother's 44 mag from the glove box of the car and took aim and shot the dirt bag.

I've had regular shooters of pistols/revolvers tell me I'm confused...
but of a .44 Mag Ruger, .41 Ruger, .357 S&W and a 9mm Walther...
the easiest shooting and most accurate one for me was the .44 Mag Ruger.

In retrospect I tell everyone who wants to carry that you had better have
THE WILL to shoot.


That is EXACTLY the message from the "Americas's Most Wanted" Series.
They used to have some VERY informative segments from a retired cop from San Diego.
One of the segments was about a lady who didn't have the will to empty
her pistol into a house robber; the bad guy got the piece and finished her off.

You're right...without the WILL, all the training in the world and the
best gun are worthless in self-defense.
53 posted on 01/22/2005 9:45:43 AM PST by VOA
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To: mad_as_he$$

Wow. That's quite a story.

Never had to point one at anybody, much less pull the trigger. There were a couple of times I thought I was going to have to, but was able to avoid it.

But I have no doubt I could if I had to.

And there is one particular individual I wish I would have had the chance to do it to last May. He stabbed my sister to death, took her guns, drove across the river into the adjoining state and shot an old friend of mine twelve times, killing him as well.

But alas, I was 1200 miles away...


54 posted on 01/22/2005 9:48:08 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The Left believes in everything about the First Amendment....except what it actually says!)
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To: Cactuspete

File under, "I shot him, but..."

;-)


56 posted on 01/22/2005 11:12:28 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The Left believes in everything about the First Amendment....except what it actually says!)
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To: Tacis
No, I would have preferred that Richie used his one round more effectively!

Maybe he was like Barney. Only allowed to have one round or, er, bullet.

57 posted on 01/22/2005 11:20:50 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Cactuspete

LOL...


59 posted on 01/22/2005 11:30:15 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The Left believes in everything about the First Amendment....except what it actually says!)
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To: Incandesia
If you can witness battle and not be scarred, you're not right to begin with.

I disagree. It is a matter of perspective. If you aren't prepared and there with a specific mission then you shouldn't be there. After that, forget empathy and sympathy. To paraphrase Patton, leave that to the other guys.

What about surgeons, EMT's, cops, etc., that witness that stuff all the time. Would you say they are not right?

60 posted on 01/22/2005 11:30:23 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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