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Aid groups warn on U.S. pullout
CNN ^ | 01-21-2005 | Virginia Ridgerunner

Posted on 01/21/2005 11:55:50 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner

Aid Groups Warn on U.S. Pullout

Friday, January 21, 2005 Posted: 6:34 AM EST (1134 GMT)

BANDA ACEH, Indonesia (AP) -- Aid groups have warned it might be too soon for the U.S. military to scale back its emergency operations for Asia's tsunami victims....

The U.S. announced on Thursday that American forces would begin immediately transferring responsibility for relief operations to the "appropriate host nations and international organizations."

But some aid groups expressed concern that the move came too quickly, as tens of thousands of survivors from the Dec. 26 tsunami that struck a dozen nations were still in need of food aid and shelter.

"My gut feeling is that no, the civilian side isn't ready to take over," said Aine Fay, Indonesia director for the Irish aid group Concern. "The American military, the military hardware has been so useful."

"I'm a bit taken aback that they're thinking of withdrawing it already," she said.

Speaking in Bangkok, Thailand, the U.N. special coordinator for tsunami relief, Margareta Wahlstrom, said she hoped the military would not leave immediately because the relief operations depend on its "resources and machinery."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aid; humanitarianrelief; tsunami; un; usmilitary
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Speaking in Bangkok, Thailand, the U.N. special coordinator for tsunami relief, Margareta Wahlstrom, said she hoped the military would not leave immediately because the relief operations depend on its "resources and machinery."

Hmmmmm.... what happened to "Yankee go home"?
1 posted on 01/21/2005 11:55:54 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Reminds of when my ex-wife laid down her ultimatum, "You choose right now! Either that motorcycle or me!" When I was shoving her out the door, she was, "Wait! Wait!" I changed the locks the same day!


2 posted on 01/21/2005 11:58:41 AM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

From stingy to 'please don't go' in less than a month.


3 posted on 01/21/2005 11:59:35 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Get Out!... no... Stay!... no... Get Out!.... no...


4 posted on 01/21/2005 12:00:10 PM PST by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Well, Yankee go home but leave your stuff here.


5 posted on 01/21/2005 12:00:35 PM PST by Gefreiter (When seconds count, the police are minutes away.)
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Based on the UN Press Releases they wanted the US to no longer lead the effort and they had all their people taking care of the effort.

I guess once again the US to the rescuse even though everyone hates US and we will help anyway.

To bad you don't have some MSM anchor on the USS Lincoln showing all the hard working Navy guys and gals working their tails off delivery aid. But I guess if they did it would show how the UN is sitting on their a**.
6 posted on 01/21/2005 12:01:10 PM PST by BobCNY
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Dammit! When did our military become the pawns of these so-called Aid Organizations. First they want us out, then they want our operations severely curtailed and subject to certain restrictions and. now, they are "Warning" that we shouldn't leave any sooner than they think is appropriate. Really a mess! /vent
7 posted on 01/21/2005 12:01:34 PM PST by drt1
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

LOL This story is the laugh of the day. Like American liberals these folks are all bluster about America staying out of their business, and yet when we do pull up stakes, they're like "But how could you leave us this way?" It's the same as the libs who bitch about police state USA calling the cops for help when someone steals their miso soup.


8 posted on 01/21/2005 12:02:49 PM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: jimtorr

I thought the UN relief effort was doing everything?

No, I guess not:

Guest Column: No Relief in Sight for the Lincoln



By Ed Stanton



It has been three weeks since my ship, the USS Abraham Lincoln, arrived off the Sumatran coast to aid the hundreds of thousands of victims of the Dec. 26 tsunami that ravaged their coastline. I’d like to say that this has been a rewarding experience for us, but it has not: Instead, it has been a frustrating and needlessly dangerous exercise made even more difficult by the Indonesian government and a traveling circus of so-called aid workers who have invaded our spaces.



What really irritated me was a scene I witnessed in the Lincoln’s wardroom a few days ago. I went in for breakfast as I usually do, expecting to see the usual crowd of ship’s company officers in khakis and air wing aviators in flight suits, drinking coffee and exchanging rumors about when our ongoing humanitarian mission in Sumatra is going to end.



What I saw instead was a mob of civilians sitting around like they owned the place. They wore various colored vests with logos on the back including Save The Children, World Health Organization and the dreaded baby blue vest of the United Nations. Mixed in with this crowd were a bunch of reporters, cameramen and Indonesian military officers in uniform. They all carried cameras, sunglasses and fanny packs like tourists on their way to Disneyland.



My warship had been transformed into a floating hotel for a bunch of trifling do-gooders overnight.



As I went through the breakfast line, I overheard one of the U.N. strap-hangers, a longhaired guy with a beard, make a sarcastic comment to one of our food servers. He said something along the lines of “Nice china, really makes me feel special,” in reference to the fact that we were eating off of paper plates that day. It was all I could do to keep from jerking him off his feet and choking him, because I knew that the reason we were eating off paper plates was to save dishwashing water so that we would have more water to send ashore and save lives. That plus the fact that he had no business being there in the first place.



My attitude towards these unwanted no-loads grew steadily worse that day as I learned more from one of our junior officers who was assigned to escort a group of them. It turns out that they had come to Indonesia to “assess the damage” from the Dec. 26 tsunami.



Well, they could have turned on any TV in the world and seen that the damage was total devastation. When they got to Sumatra with no plan, no logistics support and no five-star hotels to stay in, they threw themselves on the mercy of the U.S. Navy, which, unfortunately, took them in. I guess our senior brass was hoping for some good PR since this was about the time that the U.N. was calling the United States “stingy” with our relief donations.



As a result of having to host these people, our severely over-tasked SH-60 Seahawk helos, which were carrying tons of food and water every day to the most inaccessible places in and around Banda Aceh, are now used in great part to ferry these “relief workers” from place to place every day and bring them back to their guest bedrooms on the Lincoln at night. Despite their avowed dedication to helping the victims, these relief workers will not spend the night in-country, and have made us their guardians by default.



When our wardroom treasurer approached the leader of the relief group and asked him who was paying the mess bill for all the meals they ate, the fellow replied, “We aren’t paying, you can try to bill the U.N. if you want to.”



In addition to the relief workers, we routinely get tasked with hauling around reporters and various low-level “VIPs,” which further wastes valuable helo lift that could be used to carry supplies. We had to dedicate two helos and a C-2 cargo plane for America-hater Dan Rather and his entourage of door holders and briefcase carriers from CBS News. Another camera crew was from MTV. I doubt if we’ll get any good PR from them, since the cable channel is banned in Muslim countries. We also had to dedicate a helo and crew to fly around the vice mayor of Phoenix, Ariz., one day. Everyone wants in on the action.



As for the Indonesian officers, while their job is apparently to encourage our leaving as soon as possible, all they seem to do in the meantime is smoke cigarettes. They want our money and our help but they don’t want their population to see that Americans are doing far more for them in two weeks than their own government has ever done or will ever do for them.



To add a kick in the face to the USA and the Lincoln, the Indonesian government announced it would not allow us to use their airspace for routine training and flight proficiency operations while we are saving the lives of their people, some of whom are wearing Osama bin Ladin T-shirts as they grab at our food and water. The ship has to steam out into international waters to launch and recover jets, which makes our helos have to fly longer distances and burn more fuel.



What is even worse than trying to help people who totally reject everything we stand for is that our combat readiness has suffered for it.



An aircraft carrier is an instrument of national policy and the big stick she carries is her air wing. An air wing has a set of very demanding skills and they are highly perishable. We train hard every day at sea to conduct actual air strikes, air defense, maritime surveillance, close air support and many other missions – not to mention taking off and landing on a ship at sea.



Our safety regulations state that if a pilot does not get a night carrier landing every seven days, he has to be re-qualified to land on the ship. Today we have pilots who have now been over 25 days without a trap due to being unable to use Indonesian airspace to train. Normally it is when we are at sea that our readiness is at its very peak. Thanks to the Indonesian government, we have to waive our own safety rules just to get our pilots off the deck.



In other words, the longer we stay here helping these people, the more dangerous it gets for us to operate. We have already lost one helicopter, which crashed in Banda Aceh while taking sailors ashore to unload supplies from the C-130s. There were no relief workers on that one.



I’m all for helping the less fortunate, but it is time to give this mission to somebody other than the U.S. Navy. Our ship was supposed to be home on Feb. 3 and now we have no idea how long we will be here. American taxpayers are spending millions per day to keep this ship at sea and getting no training value out of it. As a result, we will come home in a lower state of readiness than when we left due to the lack of flying while supporting the tsunami relief effort.



I hope we get some good PR in the Muslim world out of it. After all, this is Americans saving the lives of Muslims. I have my doubts.



Ed Stanton is the pen name of a career U.S. Navy officer currently serving with the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group. Send Feedback responses to dwfeedback@yahoo.com.


9 posted on 01/21/2005 12:02:49 PM PST by zek157
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she hoped the military would not leave immediately because the relief operations depend on its "resources and machinery.

The "resources and machinery" ARE the relief operation.

10 posted on 01/21/2005 12:04:03 PM PST by oldbrowser (You lost the election...........get over it)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Hilarious. Now they want the big, bad US to stay? LOL.


11 posted on 01/21/2005 12:04:49 PM PST by Annie03
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
"Speaking in Bangkok, Thailand, the U.N. special coordinator for tsunami relief, Margareta Wahlstrom, said she hoped the military would not leave immediately because the relief operations depend on its "resources and machinery."

Is that the same unrepentant U.N. that visibly and harshly criticized U.S. contributions as slow and meager?

I guess being ignorant criminals does have it's advantages!
12 posted on 01/21/2005 12:05:33 PM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

The relief operation needs the U.S. military but it doesn't need the U.N., fact.


13 posted on 01/21/2005 12:08:26 PM PST by Pittsburg Phil
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

There are other nations with military forces that could take over.


14 posted on 01/21/2005 12:08:34 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: zek157

I really can't take any more of this crap. We're needed, then we're not, now we're needed again, and those who need our help aren't even courteous to those who provide assistance.


15 posted on 01/21/2005 12:10:02 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Now that they have collected wads of money, they don't want to spend any of it.


16 posted on 01/21/2005 12:10:24 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: zek157

Great letter.


17 posted on 01/21/2005 12:15:35 PM PST by elfman2
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

What happened in Indonesia?


18 posted on 01/21/2005 12:18:16 PM PST by johnb838 (Oldthinkers unbellyfeel Amsoc)
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To: drt1
Ah, I don't think the aid organizations ever said they wanted us out. That would be the local political structure that's not happy with the U.S. being there. The rebels want us out because having non-Islamic foreigners rendering aid makes non-Islamic religions look good, especially the U.S., who is supposed to be the Great Satan, of which no good should be allowed to come. The Indonesian government doesn't want us to stick around because they figure the rebels will eventually get it in their heads to try to slaughter us; at the least, our continued presence reinforces the idea that they themselves aren't as capable as they ought to be.

But you'll be hard put to find an aid organization that's ever talked bad about us there.

19 posted on 01/21/2005 12:23:52 PM PST by RonF
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I wouldn't expect the muzzies to give much of a toot about our military preparedness. Or to say "Thanks."


20 posted on 01/21/2005 12:24:05 PM PST by johnb838 (Oldthinkers unbellyfeel Amsoc)
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