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I hear ya loud and clear Jonah. Whenever I go to clubs these days and see the kids bumping and grinding on the dance floor, I feel like an old man (I was born in 1976, btw). To think these kids missed on on Family Ties (Michael J. Fox as a sex symbol?), Parachute Pants, and Pac Man. ;-)
1 posted on 01/21/2005 9:54:02 AM PST by Clemenza
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I am coming up on my 10 year high school reunion...I feel old!


2 posted on 01/21/2005 9:59:39 AM PST by RockinRight (Sanford for President in '08!)
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To: Clemenza
Maybe Lyle made Jonah feel old but, I'd never even heard of this movie(?) "Old School" until this moment.
4 posted on 01/21/2005 10:03:37 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Clemenza

For one reason or another I only became a huge fan of Animal House about 5 years ago. I never quite caught onto the hype of it all when I saw it for the first time about 17 years ago. I am going to be 31 in a few months and have seen both movies...let me put it this way...Will Ferrell is hilarious and so is the movie.

But nothing...and I mean nothing that has come out in the last 10 years can compare to Animal House...and yes that goes for the American Pie trilogy which is funny as hell too. There is just something about the dialouge in AH that is timeless and movies like that and Blazing Saddles could never be made today because of the PC police in this nation.


6 posted on 01/21/2005 10:06:28 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (I Watch TV, What Do You Want From Me?)
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To: Clemenza

"True love is hard to find, sometimes you think you have true love and then you catch the early flight home from San Diego and a couple of nude people jump out of your bathroom blindfolded like a goddamn magic show ready to double team your girlfriend..." -Mitch Martin


8 posted on 01/21/2005 10:07:06 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: Clemenza
I don't read many articles by Goldberg. From what I know he can be funny.

Yet, this article illustrates well why he's of little consequence or interest.

9 posted on 01/21/2005 10:07:32 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Dan from Michigan; NYC GOP Chick

Animal House or Old School?


12 posted on 01/21/2005 10:09:38 AM PST by Clemenza (Europhiles and Monarchists should be purged)
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To: Clemenza

I absolutely loved Old School. I can't tell you how many times I've seen that movie. I laugh so hard that I cry everytime I hear that Wedding Singer do his rendition of Total Eclipse of the Heart. Priceless!


13 posted on 01/21/2005 10:10:03 AM PST by SeamusVA
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To: Clemenza
Here's a news flash for you, Jonah: you ARE old. Not really old, but old in terms of pop culture. It happened a long time before you realized it. You should have noticed long ago that beer commercials no longer speak to you, but Buick commercials do. "Contemporary" music sounds like crap, compared to what was current when you were in your teens and twenties. Clothes worn by teens are ridiculous and ugly, and their language childish, crude, and nonsensical. Don't worry, though. Pop culture is, by its very nature, ephemeral. It won't be more than a few years until "meat sack" is going through the same things. Maybe he'll realize, hopefully sooner than you have, that, although Ashlee Simpson will have three kids and stretch marks by then, he is still young in terms of his actual life's work, young in terms of what he will accomplish that will define his life. It's a sign of emotional maturity to accept, even to embrace, your passage into adulthood. Hope to welcome you here soon.
16 posted on 01/21/2005 10:11:44 AM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel
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To: Clemenza
Animal House hands down. The king of campus comedies. Old School is funny but it isn't even close.
20 posted on 01/21/2005 10:14:23 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: Clemenza

There was a great list making the rounds a few years ago that reaallly made feel creaky. It including things like "skates have always been inline" and the "no idea what a broken record is" reference.

I'll have to go find it....


25 posted on 01/21/2005 10:16:47 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Lefty Suicide Hotline: 1-800-BUSH-WON (thanks PJ-Comix!))
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To: Clemenza
pretty much the best piece that I've read on the subject of comparing something older to something newer appeared a couple of years ago in "The Onion". It was an article entitled, "When You're Ready to Have a Mature Discussion About the Green Lantern, You Have My E-Mail Address."

I know several comic book fans that said that they could have written most of it. And, of course, one noted that the piece was even funnier if you read it using the voice of the Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons.

TS

31 posted on 01/21/2005 10:21:59 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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"Kids going to college this fall were born the year I graduated from high school. Which means that I was going to bars three years before they were born."


So, this guy was going to bars when he was a sophomore in high school? And this guy is only a couple of years older than me, since the kids who were born when I graduated high school are getting their drivers' licenses now. I don't remember it being legal to go to a bar at the age of 14-15 back in the '80s.


35 posted on 01/21/2005 10:24:47 AM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Clemenza
I spent several years teaching college English and communications classes. I once gave two students extra credit on a research project when they found the music and the steps for doing the Huck-a-buck...and performed in class.

I was born in 1963, four months and 10 days before Kennedy was killed. I also spent several years as an arts & entertainment reporter, and got to meet and interview a lot of famous people.

Here's when I started to feel old(and this was nearly 10 years ago) I was trying to explain to my class how to do face-to-face interviews, including preparing for, conducting and following up. I told the students that interviewing often required you to think on your feet and ignore what you had prepared to ask, primarily because you never know what the interviewee might say. I used an example from when I had got a last second opportunity to interview Mick Jagger when he was in town as part of the Steel Wheels tour.

One student raised her hand: "Who's Mick Jagger?"

I tried to keep the look of astonishment off my face, but I said, "Mick Jagger? The Lead Singer for the Rolling Stones?"

"Who are the Rolling Stones?"

I should have stopped at this point, but went on: "Rolling Stones...part of the British Invasion..came to the US a few years after the Beatles..."

"Who are the Beatles?"

Granted, this was not a pupular culture class, but I was amazed that anyone in the United States would not know who the Beatles were.

44 posted on 01/21/2005 10:31:15 AM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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"Old School" was just another lame attempt by Hollywood to produce a college comedy that rivalled "Animal House". It follows up on other wannabe flicks such as "Road Trip" and "Van Wilder" (which was even produced by National Lampoon). Other films from the 80's such as "Real Genius" and "Revenge of the Nerds" also aspired to the level of Bluto and D-Day. These films failed because their basic "Animal House" plots (a group of social misfits taking on the collegiate establishment and winning) applies to the 60's and not to today. The story line of a binge drinking fraternity trying to gain acceptance in college isn't funny becaue binge drinking fraternities no longer dominate the social scene at major universities. They are there, but their members are outnumbered by the students who are not interested in binge drinking fraternities (or sororities). Likewise, spoofing dorm life doesn't work anymore because more and more freshmen live in off campus apartments or modern campus suites.

A good plot line for a modern college comedy would deal with a group of friends trying to navigate the immense beaurocracy to register for classes and graduate. "Road Trip" comes closest to this, but it still doesn't come all the way.


47 posted on 01/21/2005 10:32:53 AM PST by bobjam
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To: Clemenza
I started my fresman year in college when Animal House came out. Back then the drinking age was 18 and the college I attended had an official school-sponsored chugging contest (our team came in second).

How times change.

85 posted on 01/21/2005 11:08:22 AM PST by dirtboy (To make a pearl, you must first irritate an oyster)
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Stork: "Well, what the hell we 'sposed to do ya mo-ron?!"

Bbwwuuahahahaha!!! I love that guy! Best one-liner in any movie, EVER!

102 posted on 01/21/2005 11:19:09 AM PST by OB1kNOb (SAM: "Hey Norm, how's the world been treating you?" NORM: "Like a baby treats a diaper.")
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My daughter's middle school teacher was in the 2nd grade when the space shuttle Challenger exploded. That about floored me...

(She's a cutie-pie, too!) ;-)

111 posted on 01/21/2005 11:28:25 AM PST by Hatteras
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I have no great profundity to offer ("as if you ever do, jack**s" — quoth the Couch). But I think this is a particularly important perspective for conservatives to keep in mind, if not necessarily to obsess about. As the party that believes human nature has no history and the holder that certain truths remain immutable, it's useful to realize how fast the world is changing before our eyes. This is a very old theme of mine — that technological changes pose a constant threat to the conservative project even as conservatives shouldn't be ideologically anti-technology. Cars, the birth control pill, the Internet, and television have all done more to dissolve the iron chains of community and tradition than most of the acidic ideas of dangerous philosophers.

What can conservatives do about this? Well, a lot and nothing. We cannot and should not adopt some sort of anti-change platform. This isn't to say I'm always pro-change, but conservatives are also realists and we should know that change can't be stopped. And spare me references to the Buckleyite proposition that conservatives must stand athwart history yelling "Stop!" I agree with that, but the context of that statement was narrow and historically contingent on the proposition that the Soviets were eating our lunch. After all, William F. Buckley has spent his entire life yelling stop so he could change things, not so that he could freeze them. What we can do is what we've always done. Recognize and point out that change and progress are not synonymous, that materialistic advances are often merely a changing of the garb of humanity and not a change of humanity itself and, of course, that anyone who thinks Old School is superior to Animal House needs his head flushed.

SAY LOUD: "Progressives" aren't for progress; they are for socialism

The Amish are not "anti-technology" because technology is "inherently wrong", they are against adopting most of these devices because the question comes, "where do you draw the line?"

Something to note with all of this discussion of "looking back" in time is that largely the history of post-WWII America has been written by the left. That is a HUGE chuck of societal change and lets them dominate the social agenda. How will school texts handle the impeachment of Bill Clinton, the 2000 election hassle, or even the "issues" of the 2004 election? Should more focus be put on the irregularities in the 1960 election? Should students learn of "box 13" that put future preseident LBJ in Congress?

Should Senator Joseph McCarthy's history be clarified? "The Crucible" was written before "McCarthyism" (or to put it another way, McCarthyism came before McCarthy). Should we now be teaching students about the left wing Pravda like propaganda machine? Zogbyism tried to sway an election with bogus poll numbers and forged documents and forged abuse photos. The funniest joke of the 2004 election is that some on the left tried to say that the election was "stolen" because the poll numbers showed that Kerry would win; they believed their own BS. When you cook the books, ALWAYS keep a set of the real numbers so that you know how much you stole.

131 posted on 01/21/2005 12:06:09 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Clemenza
Whenever I go to clubs these days and see the kids bumping and grinding on the dance floor, I feel like an old man (I was born in 1976, btw). To think these kids missed on on Family Ties (Michael J. Fox as a sex symbol?), Parachute Pants, and Pac Man. ;-)
Yeah, but they get to do dances that even I often say look like dogs [bleep]ing. I card people that were born in '76...LOL.

-Eric

163 posted on 01/21/2005 12:40:27 PM PST by E Rocc (Leftists look at liberty the way Christians look at sin.)
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PING
167 posted on 01/21/2005 12:54:25 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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