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Linux, Inc.
BusinessWeek online ^ | 21 January 2005 | Steve Hamm

Posted on 01/21/2005 9:34:02 AM PST by ShadowAce

Linus Torvalds once led a ragtag band of software geeks. Not anymore. Here's an inside look at how the unusual Linux business model increasingly threatens Microsoft

Five years ago, Linus Torvalds faced a mutiny. The reclusive Finn had taken the lead in creating the Linux computer operating system, with help from thousands of volunteer programmers, and the open-source software had become wildly popular for running Web sites during the dot-com boom. But just as Linux was taking off, some programmers rebelled. Torvalds' insistence on manually reviewing everything that went into the software was creating a logjam, they warned. Unless he changed his ways, they might concoct a rival software package -- a threat that could have crippled Linux. "Everybody knew things were falling apart," recalls Larry McVoy, a programmer who played peacemaker. "Something had to be done."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Technical
KEYWORDS: business; culture; linux; notwindows
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To: proxy_user
Novell SUSE does have a live CD and a live DVD for those with bootable DVD drives.

The CD is SUSE 9.1 and the DVD is SUSE 9.2 Professional

21 posted on 01/21/2005 10:50:16 AM PST by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: ShadowAce

Great article. Thanks. I think I'm beginning to understand why big companies such as Adobe don't write for Linux -- because under the GNU licensing agreement they would not be able to charge for their work. Am I right?


22 posted on 01/21/2005 10:54:05 AM PST by Musket
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Knoppix, be a man and install Debian. It may be the hardest single thing to install, but when it's running, you never have to worry about it again. Plus, apt-get has to be the most powerful utility in Linux. I know other version of Linux now have similar features, but Debian has the largest repository of programs available to it.


23 posted on 01/21/2005 10:54:48 AM PST by cosmicassassin (Just give me what I came for, then I'm out the door again.)
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To: Musket

Under the GPL, the code has to be open source. You can't exactly charge for a program when you can find the source at other locations. But if you just want to view Adobe files, xpdf and gv should be able to open most of them with no problems.


24 posted on 01/21/2005 10:57:22 AM PST by cosmicassassin (Just give me what I came for, then I'm out the door again.)
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To: Musket
because under the GNU licensing agreement they would not be able to charge for their work. Am I right?

Nope. There are commercial products available for Linux. Oracle is probably the best know one, though Adobe is also coming out with a Linux product.

Writing a commercial application that does not use GPL'ed code means you do not have to distribute the source code. Hence, it can be as proproetary as you like.

Most commercial linux products do rely on the LGPL license for their linkages to GPL'ed libraries. This license is different in that you don't have to GPL your own code to use a LGPL library.

25 posted on 01/21/2005 10:57:50 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Wow. That was a very well written, brief history / explanation of Linux. Highly recommended for anyone interested in the subject.


26 posted on 01/21/2005 10:57:52 AM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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To: B-Cause

Make sure you grab the adblock extension for Firefox. Neat little feature to suppress advertisements from showing up. Foxnews has to be one of the worst websites for junk advertising. With this feature, it loads up much faster.


27 posted on 01/21/2005 10:59:17 AM PST by cosmicassassin (Just give me what I came for, then I'm out the door again.)
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To: ShadowAce; cosmicassassin

Thanks. Well, I'm starting to get it.


28 posted on 01/21/2005 11:29:33 AM PST by Musket
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To: ShadowAce

Linux Inc? LOL, Red Hat and Novell are both dropping like a rock on the stock market if you haven't noticed, been going on for months check it yourself. Red Hat down another 4% today already, the stock was $30 last summer and is now down to $10, with no end in sight.


29 posted on 01/21/2005 11:33:55 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Musket

You got it. Check the top 100 selling software apps at Amazon.com, not one Linux application is listed.


30 posted on 01/21/2005 11:40:40 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

Apparently business is good but not good enough to justify trees that grow to the sky.


31 posted on 01/21/2005 11:45:14 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Publius6961

Why wait? Get Firefox NOW!!!


32 posted on 01/21/2005 11:49:16 AM PST by Space Wrangler
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To: Musket; Golden Eagle
Musket: I think I'm beginning to understand why big companies such as Adobe don't write for Linux -- because under the GNU licensing agreement they would not be able to charge for their work. Am I right?

Golden Eagle: You got it. Check the top 100 selling software apps at Amazon.com, not one Linux application is listed.

As appears to be his job, GE is again being deceptive. Developers are perfectly free to write and sell proprietary software that runs on Linux. There aren't many end-user commercial programs for several reasons (one of which is that the freely available applications are quite good), but the GPL has nothing to do with it.

33 posted on 01/21/2005 11:54:50 AM PST by ThinkDifferent (These pretzels are making me thirsty)
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To: Golden Eagle

Did you read the article?


34 posted on 01/21/2005 11:58:32 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: cosmicassassin
I completely avoid sites that are graphic intensive. (read: optimized for broadband)

I'm not on broadband, so, I avoid "broadband only" websites, like FOX News.

35 posted on 01/21/2005 12:04:12 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: ShadowAce

Yes, I found it pretty ill informed. No mention of the 283 apparent patent violations found by OSRM, no mention of how Red Hat has lost 70% of their value in the last 8 months, and no mention of the countless versions of Red Hat and Novell being copied and renamed the world over, without a dime back to the US economy. Pretty irresponsible, IMO.

http://lwn.net/Distributions/


36 posted on 01/21/2005 12:05:45 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If you are interested in trying Linux, download the Knoppix ISO image and burn it to CD.

I'm not interested in downloading a 650 MB file on a dialup connection.

37 posted on 01/21/2005 12:05:50 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: Musket
No, you are not correct.

Oracle puts code out that runs on Linux but it is not GPL. Adobe could write for Linux and keep its code to itself so long as it did not use GPL code within its application. As long as you dont (a) put GPL code in your application, or (b) statically link to GPL code you can write a closed source app for Linux.

Oracle, Veritas, BEA, EMC, VMWare and others all write closed source and very expensive application that are closed source..

38 posted on 01/21/2005 12:06:59 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: cosmicassassin

But you can write non GPL code that runs on Linux, see oracle and others. Just dont put GPL code in your application..


39 posted on 01/21/2005 12:07:49 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: ShadowAce

I can hardly wait for Microsoft Linux to come out. After that, they're releasing Linux++.


40 posted on 01/21/2005 12:08:45 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are ready to do violence on our behalf)
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