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Peggy Noonan: Way Too Much God (Freepers let's tell her our thoughts)
WSJ ^ | 1/21/05 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 01/21/2005 4:19:45 AM PST by Mikmur

PEGGY NOONAN

Way Too Much God Was the president's speech a case of "mission inebriation"?

The inaugural address itself was startling. It left me with a bad feeling, and reluctant dislike. Rhetorically, it veered from high-class boilerplate to strong and simple sentences, but it was not pedestrian. George W. Bush's second inaugural will no doubt prove historic because it carried a punch, asserting an agenda so sweeping that an observer quipped that by the end he would not have been surprised if the president had announced we were going to colonize Mars. A short and self-conscious preamble led quickly to the meat of the speech: the president's evolving thoughts on freedom in the world. Those thoughts seemed marked by deep moral seriousness and no moral modesty.

The president's speech seemed rather heavenish. It was a God-drenched speech. This president, who has been accused of giving too much attention to religious imagery and religious thought, has not let the criticism enter him. God was invoked relentlessly. "The Author of Liberty." "God moves and chooses as He wills. We have confidence because freedom is the permanent hope of mankind . . . the longing of the soul."

And yet such promising moments were followed by this, the ending of the speech. "Renewed in our strength--tested, but not weary--we are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." This is--how else to put it?--over the top. It is the kind of sentence that makes you wonder if this White House did not, in the preparation period, have a case of what I have called in the past "mission inebriation." A sense that there are few legitimate boundaries to the desires born in the goodness of their good hearts.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; bushdoctrineunfold; god; gwbanointed; inauguraladdress; inauguration; noonan; peggydowd; president; shesrightguys; w2
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To: hobson
US security DEPENDS on spreading freedom. Get it?

Oh thanks. I am such a dimwit. I never would have guessed without a genius like you explaining it to me.

281 posted on 01/21/2005 8:37:22 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: syriacus
Sorry..but most of Americas Irish immigrants came from Southern Ireland..considered to be "savages" by the established English government at the time..1847 I believe..when the English starved them to death and sent many to Australian as punishment for stealing a cow for food.
282 posted on 01/21/2005 8:37:52 AM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: mewzilla; Mo1; A Citizen Reporter
Ms. Noonan has jumped the shark.

You may be right.

283 posted on 01/21/2005 8:39:56 AM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: buzznut

"The American Dorothy has killed the wicked witch, now it is time for the Iraqi munchkins to make it on their own. If they can't, then tough darts for them!"-

All in due time my pretty..all in due time. (sorry..couldn't resist.tee hee)


285 posted on 01/21/2005 8:40:13 AM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: hobson
The last half of the 20th century was focused on curbing the spread of communism. That is a reactive and defensive policy.

If it were proactive, as in preemptive invasions, and about spreading freedom then I guess Castro would have long since been history.

286 posted on 01/21/2005 8:40:29 AM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: AndyJackson
I am such a dimwit.

The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. Good luck to you.

288 posted on 01/21/2005 8:44:46 AM PST by hobson
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To: buzznut

"I couldn't resist a pop culture reference; still I stand by it.--
Hey..I thought it was funny. :) A little humor is much needed in these debates.


289 posted on 01/21/2005 8:48:26 AM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Mikmur

"I cannot believe that a non-liberal would bash this speech. Perhaps she is just not comfortable with God herself. She surely need not be embarrassed for the President, he can handle himself. As for the ending; isn't it accepted that America was founded under God to spread freedom and liberty, both religious and economic? Ms Noonan did us a disservice her by giving fuel to the anti-American, anti-religious zealots in our country."

You summed up what she said very well. I totally agree with you. Now she's given all the liberals cover to bash the President.

What is going on with her?


290 posted on 01/21/2005 8:49:02 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: Mikmur

This is the result of the PC thought police. With all respect to Peggy Noonan. I never thought she would be influenced by the fear of a thought crime.

This is the exact result the left seeks to achieve. The left (democrats) will now point to this article every time they feeeeeeeel threatened by God.

The want to stiffle expression before it is expressed. They want people to fear speaking out when with their piers. Only the left atheist religion is allowed to speak to exercise expression? I think not.


291 posted on 01/21/2005 8:51:42 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: AndyJackson

Nothing so destroyes a good rhetorical flourish as the introduction of detail.

Fortunately for me, Buzz got the point.

Shalom.


292 posted on 01/21/2005 8:53:31 AM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: valkyrieanne

I never thought of it that way. Removing people from the culture is the key.


293 posted on 01/21/2005 8:54:10 AM PST by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: syriacus
Is the US homogeneous?

It was when established (are you a recent government school product?).

That is why we conservatives are so concerned about the current immigration policy/philosophy. They seem to us to be a road map to Balkanization.

294 posted on 01/21/2005 8:54:26 AM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Mikmur
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295 posted on 01/21/2005 8:55:36 AM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: iconoclast
he's on the hated side isn't he?

I wouldn't agree that Juan is hated. I would agree with you if you said he is decently and brightly monotonous. How many new ideas have you gotten from him?

My personal impression, from watching Juan Williams so much, is that he is very, very, very, very, very, very, very (almost scarily) predictable.

That's why I wrote, up above, that it was nice that his appreciation for Bush's efforts against AIDS shone through on that day.

I'd love to see Juan express his spontaneous feelings more often.

296 posted on 01/21/2005 8:56:16 AM PST by syriacus (Title as Queen of the BOXER SNORTS goes to Sen. Babs for her performance on 1/19/2005)
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To: buzznut

"The United States survived quite happily from 1783 to 1917 without intervening (i.e. "spreading freedom") in the Old World's problems."
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Don't we all just wish it could be that way again? I don't think the world community will let us though go back to that bliss....do you? I don't like it anymore than you do. My Nephew goes back in March.


297 posted on 01/21/2005 8:57:00 AM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Mikmur

Hey, Noonan. If you don't like it, take it up with GOD !


298 posted on 01/21/2005 8:57:35 AM PST by OB1kNOb (WOODY: "Hey Mr. Peterson, there's a cold one waiting for you." NORM: " If she calls I'm not here.")
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To: FR_addict
isn't it accepted that America was founded under God to spread freedom and liberty, both religious and economic?

By Jingo!

299 posted on 01/21/2005 8:57:39 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson
I need to know what he intends to do and then I can decide whether I believe that he is following God or Christ.

OK, I agree with you there. However, the reality is that we get the intentions and the actions mixed together as some plans are being laid as others are being completed. Also, often the actions are wanting based on the intentions. Some knowledge of both is important.

Consider the possibilities:

A non-Christian who follows Christian teachings well.
A non-Christian who doesn't follow Christian teachings well.
A Christian who follows Christian teachings well.
A Christian who follows Christian teachings poorly.

Hypothetically speaking, do you think it would matter which a person is if presented with an opportunity to "off" an opponent in a way that would not be revealed?

Shalom.

300 posted on 01/21/2005 8:58:19 AM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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