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Fred Barnes: Bush's Breakthrough
The Weekly Standard ^ | 01/20/05 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 01/20/2005 2:21:15 PM PST by Pokey78

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To: DTogo
Juan Williams' next appearance with Fred on Brit Hume's "All Star" panel?

Juan Williams is the pitcher for the pre-All Star Game home run derby. His job is to toss them up slow, straight and in the center of the strike zone. Whack! Another stupid idea hit out of the park.

21 posted on 01/20/2005 2:49:55 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Blackwell for Governor 2006: hated by the 'Rats, feared by the RINOs.)
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To: Tragically Single
I'm convinced that the two great pillars of freedom are capitalism and democracy.

100% effective in fighting poverty.

22 posted on 01/20/2005 2:50:37 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01
Attention: all Weekly Standard employees. Editor desperately needed!

This sounds like a job for the Executive Editor. Wait, that was the Executive Editor.

23 posted on 01/20/2005 2:53:20 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Blackwell for Governor 2006: hated by the 'Rats, feared by the RINOs.)
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To: Pokey78
I will say again: Bush, unlike Bush 41, Clinton, or even Reagan to a great degree, has made LIBERTY the #1 theme of his presidency. Now we can quibble about presc. drugs or what not, but any true conservative has to be thrilled that for the first time since LINCOLN someone is emphasizing human liberty as the central mission of the USA.

BTW, in our "Patriot's History of the United States," we argue that a single speech by Reagan---the "Star Wars" speech---virtually ended the Cold War. The power of words is unbelievable, far more so than the power of regulations or laws. If that's true, then the emphasis on liberty will inevitably change the dialogue in America, and will, IMHO, end the modern Dem Party, which is the party of dependency.

24 posted on 01/20/2005 2:55:10 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news (there is no c in Amtrak and no truth in MSM news))
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To: KarlInOhio

I derive so much humor from his softballs, though.


25 posted on 01/20/2005 2:55:54 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: RushCrush

Me too.

He thinks clearly and articulates it clearly.


26 posted on 01/20/2005 2:56:06 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: mlbford2
I like it that Bush reached out across the isle by bitch slapping Slick and Jimmuh in his address. That was priceless.

Yes, and he did it so well the morons most likely didn't even realize it until they heard it on the news! LOL

27 posted on 01/20/2005 2:58:55 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations to President Bush and VP Cheney!!)
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To: LS
The power of words is unbelievable, far more so than the power of regulations or laws.

A quibble: might that be best expressed as "the power of ideas", the words being merely the messenger?

28 posted on 01/20/2005 3:00:03 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: LibertarianInExile

I think to a degree you are right---every great president has combined the two. Washington continued to pay bribes to the Barbary pirates because we didn't have a navy; Lincoln kept the war about reunification until emancipation was unavoidable. But I think Bush is a little different in that he is picking these countries off one at a time: Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, and it is clear to all but the most stupid Saudis that they are in the cross hairs, if only down the line.


29 posted on 01/20/2005 3:01:09 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news (there is no c in Amtrak and no truth in MSM news))
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To: Tragically Single

No one is more peaceful than someone with something to lose. No one is more violent than that person defending what he has. That, is freedom.


30 posted on 01/20/2005 3:03:20 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: okie01

I know your point, but I would argue that until ideas are expressed, they are powerless. If you really want to get metaphysical, I believe that since there is energy literally in words, words literally evoke change however tiny.


31 posted on 01/20/2005 3:04:18 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news (there is no c in Amtrak and no truth in MSM news))
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To: McGavin999
People can laugh at the thought of George Bush being one of the greats, but it will be so true. I believe that he is a man " for such a time as this". In other words anointed. What a responsibility.
32 posted on 01/20/2005 3:07:07 PM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: Tragically Single
I'm convinced that the two great pillars of freedom are capitalism and democracy.

Democracy can't exist without capitalism (i.e. free exchange.) Capitalism, in the narrow economic sense, can exist quite well without democracy. (See China)

Capitalism is not to be worshiped. It is to be understood and applied. It is a necessary ingrediant for democracy, but it is not sufficient of and by itself to create or maintain a democracy.

33 posted on 01/20/2005 3:07:52 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Pokey78
Good, thoughtful essay. But...

...the world's only superpower....

What's China, then? Chop Suey?

Dan

34 posted on 01/20/2005 3:09:41 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Pokey78

"America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one," he said. Boom! The wall between the two schools is gone, at least in the president's formulation.

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Absolutely. this is a fundamental and important point. It is a turning away from certain compromises we made in the past.

And it means that the 'realists' cannot cling to 'stability' as the goal, nor can we pretend dictators should have say in the UN. This has far-reaching implications, most of them good.


35 posted on 01/20/2005 3:17:28 PM PST by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: LS

Good point.

Words do matter and do mean things.


36 posted on 01/20/2005 3:19:13 PM PST by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: LibertarianInExile
Bush hasn't done jack about the Saudis or Pakistan. He's every bit a realist, no matter the speech.

That's not exactly true. Bush has installed democracies in neighboring countries (Iraq and Afghanistan). That's going to put a lot of pressure on Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to reform.

You don't fight wars in every place simultaneously. Instead you attempt to defeat the enemy in detail, picking your times and spots, and deal with some nations sequentially rather than in parallel. You also tailor your tactics to the specific situation. In some instances you employ force, while in other instances you apply diplomatic or economic or political pressure.

This is not to say that Bush's strategy will work, nor is it to express confidence that Bush will take action against the authoritarian regimes in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. But I don't think it is fair at this point to accuse Bush of ignoring Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. He has a heavy agenda. If nothing has happened by the end of his second term, your criticism will be much more justified.

37 posted on 01/20/2005 3:20:28 PM PST by dpwiener
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To: Pokey78

That's what baffles people about W, he'll actually mean it when he says his goal is to spread democracy worldwide.


38 posted on 01/20/2005 3:22:07 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Dean For DNC Chair, Gore For The Nomination!)
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To: All

He only has 4 years. Once done with Iraq, I doubt we can do anything more but perhaps help Iran undergo regime change, hopefully without invasion (except for some secret military operations).

It isn't like President Bush can change the entire Middle East himself.

Whoever is POTUS after the 2008 election will have to continue the trend. And, I don't know if there is really anybody but Bush with the determination to continue such an extremely interventionist policy full-bore. Even among Republicans, that person would be hard to find.

So, while I am hopeful we will see significant change in the next four years, I am also a realist. I think that in order to accomplish the goals we need to accomplish on the domestic front....tax reform, social security reform, and if we can somehow also manage it, tort reform, we can not expect the entire ME to be transformed by President Bush. Iraq will be, and hopefully that will lead to other countries, but he can't do it all. At most, we may also be able to change Iran before 2008, and that is not even a sure thing.

Unless of course he starts a draft and massive military build-up, but I would not support that, so definitely the general public would not either.

Somebody will need to take up the torch after 2008 to continue the progress.


39 posted on 01/20/2005 3:29:03 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: LS

I would disagree with your statement that any true conservative has to be thrilled that for the first time since Lincoln someone is emphasizing human liberty as the central mission of the USA on several fronts. First off, Lincoln didn't give a hoot about liberty. Lincoln's only goal, often stated was preserving the Union, even if he had to go about it in an unconstitutional manner. In fact, he stated often that liberty wasn't the issue early and often. It wasn't until years into the war that he made the abolitionist goal his own....and even then, the Emancipation Proclamation very carefully applied only to the slave areas in rebellion, not to those slave areas still part of the Union. The second area of disagreement would be this idea that all true conservatives will thrill at this statement that it is the goal of the US to deliver freedom to the rest of the world. If you had said neo-conservative, I might have agreed. But most true conservatives will probably be appalled at such sentiments. Sovereign nations are entitled to the form of governments that they decide to set up. It is none of our business until it threatens our security. If the extent of this stated policy is in moral and some sort of financial support, true conservatives will probably go along. If however, this includes sending troops into various countries to "liberate" them without some real threat to our security then I think you will see conservatives revolt in much the same manner that they are going to do with this insane "guest worker" program. Seal our own borders first if you are so concerned about security, then worry about promoting democracy abroad.


40 posted on 01/20/2005 3:29:05 PM PST by PeterPhilly
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