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A Flag of Inconvenience (Canada)
canadianfreepress ^ | January 14, 2005 | Paul Albers

Posted on 01/19/2005 5:57:09 PM PST by -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-

A Flag of Inconvenience

by Paul Albers

January 14, 2005

Over 300 Boy Scouts from Ontario and New York State gathered at Rattlesnake Point in Milton, Ontario this past summer for a four-day 'Camporee'. I had the opportunity to observe one of the American troops conduct a flag retirement ceremony on the final evening and I was struck by the reverence displayed. Every Scout, Canadian and American, was quieter than if they were at church as the individual pieces of a well-worn stars and stripes were added to the dying flames of the bonfire. There are probably few Canadians who have seen such a sight. Our flag protocol simply states that the flag should be privately burned in a dignified way, no ceremony required.

Given the American flag's history, it isn't hard to understand their reverence for the 'Old Glory'. It has remained unchanged for over 200 years, other than the addition of stars to match the addition of states to the Union. It is the flag under which they won their liberty from England, and under which they liberated Europe and other lands. It was created as an expression of patriotism before there were Republicans or Democrats or even a constitution. They pledge their allegiance to it regularly and it is a genuine national (not political) symbol that unites all citizens. Just autographing a small paper replica of it can cause a minor stir in the media as President Bush found out early in his last presidential campaign.

Our attitude about Canada's flag is as different as its origin. Canada's current flag has only been around since February 15th, 1965. Some Canadians would be able to recall that it was Lester B. Pearson's government who introduced the new flag, and even fewer could recollect where the design actually came from.

The process was far from being non-political. The Red Ensign bore the Union Jack and the shield of the royal arms of Canada. Although it was not officially the national flag, it was used as such since the late 1800's. Pearson quickly ruled it out, and many viewed that decision as an attempt to appease Quebec by removing any hint of Canada's British heritage from the flag. Over 2000 members of the Royal Canadian Legion loudly booed Pearson after he announced his preference for a design similar to our current flag,.

Conservative Leader John Diefenbaker strongly supported making the Red Ensign Canada's national flag, as did many other Canadians. Petitions bearing hundreds of thousands of signatures called for the official adoption of the Red Ensign and Toronto City Council held a heated debate over a resolution demanding the same thing. The resolution lost, but only by three votes.

Pearson forged ahead however and when the new flag was officially raised on Parliament Hill, the front page report in the Globe & Mail described the scene saying, 'a crowd of more than 10,000 displayed no emotion as the new flag was raised...There were a few tears for the Red Ensign that had been pulled down, ...But there was no wild excitement as the new standard took it's place.'

Those fond of the Red Ensign saw the new flag as a Liberal flag and although those feelings are not nearly so prevalent now, there is a lack of devotion to the flag that has carried on to this day. For many it is little more than a corporate logo, and ironically Liberals have fostered that view.

The $20 million dollars spent giving out 'free' flags, and the staggering amounts wasted in the federal sponsorship program sends the message that it takes freebies and bribes to get people to fly the flag. Even CBC's Air Farce picked up on the subtle disrespect and ran a skit about a woman who accidentally receives several cases of free flags, which she then uses for drapes, tablecloths, sofa covers and more.

It's hard to think of someone who has shown more casual disregard for the flag than the Prime Minister. Premier Danny Williams' order to temporarily remove the national flag from provincial buildings in Newfoundland and Labrador was a symbolic protest. It was also small potatoes compared to Martin's re-flagging ships at Canada Steamship Lines to put more money in his pocket, and then running for the leadership of the country who's flag he found so inconvenient.

When the Parti Quebecois removed the Canadian flag from the Quebec legislature and attempted to outlaw the maple leaf from all provincial buildings there was very little talk and even less action from Ottawa. When Bloc MP Andre Bellavance refused to provide Canadian flags to veterans in Richmond, Que, there was no press release from Martin condemning his actions. Quebec never suffered any loss, and was never threatened with any loss as a result of their actions; while Williams had to back down to get another chance to convince Martin to keep his word. If the Liberals want to win a future by-election in Labrador, it doesn't show.

During the campaign Martin visually equated electing the Conservatives with destroying the flag and attempted to portray Liberal party values as being synonymous with Canadian values. That laid the foundation for Williams' order and it is poetic justice to see the flag used to protest Martin's government. At the same time it is sad that Canada has come to this.

The Globe & Mail wrote in a May 13, 1964 editorial that "Canada should have a national flag, and some day will have a national flag. But that day can wait, the nation's flag can wait, because we have more important things to do--the first of them being to make sure we really do have a nation. A flag will not produce Canadian unity... it is Canadian unity that, in the end, will produce a flag."

Wisdom Pearson ignored. We have a flag, thanks in part to him, but even with its return in Newfoundland we do not have unity. How long then will we have a nation?


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canadaflag; redensign
The Canadian Red Ensign

Under this flag, Canada became a great country and stood tall in WW2. Under this flag Canada was an "INDIVIDUALISM" country. The Red Ensign is everytihng the opposite of Canada that you know today. If you must, think of it as "Confederate flag" :=)

Canadian Mapel Leaf ("Liberal Flag", "COLLECTIVISM"). This is when everything started to go wrong. It's also the start of multiculturilsm.

1 posted on 01/19/2005 5:57:12 PM PST by -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-
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canuck at Juno. Notice the flag.
2 posted on 01/19/2005 6:02:12 PM PST by -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-
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Over 300 Boy Scouts from Ontario and New York State gathered at Rattlesnake Point in Milton, Ontario this past summer for a four-day 'Camporee'. I had the opportunity to observe one of the American troops conduct a flag retirement ceremony on the final evening and I was struck by the reverence displayed. Every Scout, Canadian and American, was quieter than if they were at church as the individual pieces of a well-worn stars and stripes were added to the dying flames of the bonfire.

You left out one important piece of the ceremony, the ashes from the campfire collected by the Council and District Camping Chairs and distributed among them in containers. Then at each new campfire at District level or at Council level the ashes are mixed back in and the process is started over. That way a little bit of the spirit and honor is at every campfire.

3 posted on 01/19/2005 6:12:51 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Have some fun learning about what Canada is doing to help in Afgahnistan that I bet you haven't heard.

Operation Enduring Freedom

Canda in OEF Fact Sheet

4 posted on 01/19/2005 6:21:53 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Canada's current flag is about as non-offensive and non-descript as it could possibly be, but that's pretty much in character with a country that puts animals on its coins and pictures of winter acitivities on their bills (I'm looking right now at a picture of kids playing hockey outdoors on a $5 bill, and I gotta admit its kind of cool).

This may sound odd coming from an "Anglo," but kudos to the people of Quebec for making the point that Canada isn't even a real country but a collection of individual provinces and territories that have a lot of sovereignty themselves. In fact, Canada today is very similar to what the U.S. probably should have been if the vision of our founding fathers had remained intact.

5 posted on 01/19/2005 6:24:27 PM PST by Alberta's Child (It could be worse . . . I could've missed my calling.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Canada's current flag is about as non-offensive and non-descript as it could possibly be, but that's pretty much in character with a country that puts animals on its coins and pictures of winter acitivities on their bills (I'm looking right now at a picture of kids playing hockey outdoors on a $5 bill, and I gotta admit its kind of cool).

We used to have buffalo nickels, Mercury Dimes and Indian head pennies...

6 posted on 01/19/2005 6:28:28 PM PST by Koblenz (Holland: a very tolerant country. Until someone shoots you on a public street in broad daylight...)
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I'm sorry but that Canada no longer exists but in the memories of our father's and their father's memories. I was born the year they changed the flag and I have to say that it has been all downhill for Canada since 1965.

Since then we have had "socialism", "bilingualism", and "multiculturalism" rammed down our throats and any criticism of these 3 big Liberal ideologies only leads to cries of racism.

I have nothing but the deepest of respect for those Canadian's today who still choose the military considering the lack of support they get from their own government.


7 posted on 01/19/2005 7:02:30 PM PST by aCDNinUSA
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perhaps canadian provices would consider one additional flag change.

http://www.unitednorthamerica.org

The provinces could become stars of the stars and stripes.


8 posted on 01/19/2005 8:25:58 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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I wonder if a person joining the canadian military has any worry of the Canadian military being in ANY combat type situation. It would seem the only viable function the Canadian military can do is to provide personel for sitting at Norad radar screens. (after seeing the stories stating that Canada could not even mount help to the Tsunami victims.)


9 posted on 01/19/2005 8:29:29 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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The provinces of Ontario and Manitoba still fly the Canadian Red Ensign as the provincial flag, with the provincial coat of arms in the fly. Canada's British heritage is still not completely gone. The current flag is supposed to reflect the familiar Maple Leaf as well as the grant of colours granted by Edward VII to Canada in 1909.


10 posted on 01/19/2005 8:35:55 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: longtermmemmory
Interesting site. I don't think I could suport Canada merging with the U.S. though. Ingrained socialism seems to be the norm. Also, I don't think I'd want to have anything to do with Quebec.
11 posted on 01/19/2005 8:58:38 PM PST by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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That the beauty of letting the provinces vote for themselves. The wester provinces would be a far better fit than Quebec, which would probably want to be on their own anyways.


12 posted on 01/19/2005 9:11:56 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: SandRat
There are many who still don't know we're there ... and that some have died.

Here is a good shot of Camp Julien with the King's Palace in the background.



I have more shots on my profile ... check them out.
13 posted on 01/20/2005 6:00:36 AM PST by NorthOf45
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To: Koblenz
Good point.

On an interesting side note, I remember reading somewhere that the Buffalo Nickel is considered by coin collectors to be one of the worst coins the U.S. mint ever made (from a collector's standpoint). Because the buffalo image had such a deep relief on the face of the coin (i.e., the image was very thick in comparison to the width of the coin), it wore down very easily during circulation -- making it very hard to find old coins of this sort in good shape.

14 posted on 01/20/2005 7:00:57 AM PST by Alberta's Child (It could be worse . . . I could've missed my calling.)
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