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To: SF Republican
"Yes, interesting; when the frogs have no concern (armed enemies) they are very tough, think of those royals with no protection"

Excuse ME ?? Oh, those poor royals, who had written to their foreign counterparts asking them to please invade France and free them, which they did. Read about the battle of Valmy, for example. No armed enemies ? Pull the other one, it's got Liberty Bells on.

"think of the Nazi collaborators"

Think also of those who fought them, whether in uniform or not, and those who helped fight them. 200,000 French soldiers died in WW2 (about as many as US troops in Europe), and 1 civilian was shot every 2 hours for acts of sabotage, being in the Resistance, or just hiding and feeding downed Allied aviators. Don't you think these people could be extended a little courtesy and respect ?
16 posted on 01/18/2005 10:04:39 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: Atlantic Friend
Welcome, friend from France. I visited France for three weeks in 2003 and my family and I were treated wonderfully. We loved the country and were moved by the warmth of the people in places like Normandy and Chateau Thierry (I have a US Marine great uncle buried there - he was 21 when he was killed at Belleau Wood).

I think most Americans would be happy to find common ground with the French people of today, but we are disappointed that the opinion leaders of France seem to think so little of us, and that they seem blind to the threats to Western civilization that we all face.

Despite the history of the Resistance, it does not seem that the French of today believe there is anything worth fighting for. Where are the ideals of the early pre-Marat revolution? The French seem fair weather friends but are missing in action when there is real dirty work to do - as is the case right now. Americans ask "Who WILL face the Islamic enemy, if we do not?" The answer appears to be "Not France". I say this with sadness as a man who loves France, the nation and its history.

64 posted on 01/18/2005 10:37:27 AM PST by Defend the Second ("Hans, Hans, you're breaking my barrs...")
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To: Atlantic Friend
Re: "Don't you think these people could be extended a little courtesy and respect ?"

Ummm excuse me but the topic is the French Revolution not WWII. I recommend reading "Citizens", an excellent book on the French Revolution. It will remove your illusions about this shameful war. As to the Royals writing to their foreign counterparts, I can not say I blame them, their lives were in danger. The crown tried to reform the country and was opposed by the same frog turds that then participated in the revolution.

For heavens sake you had titled nobility accusing a gardener of being an aristocrat. The fact is he most likely was more noble than his accuser. It is a damnable shame France was not beaten early in the war and freed the King and his family. Bastille Day is a disgrace.
96 posted on 01/18/2005 11:11:39 AM PST by Mark in the Old South (Note to GOP "Deliver or perish" Re: Specter I guess the GOP "chooses" to perish)
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To: Atlantic Friend
"Don't you think these people could be extended a little courtesy and respect ?"

Yes, the folks you describe certainly have earned it...but the FRench of today are not what their forefathers were...MUD

156 posted on 01/18/2005 2:06:17 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan!!)
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To: Atlantic Friend
I miss the back bone of French Saints that your nation was so good at turning out. If there is any suffering for national pride, it's due to the devil taking revenge for all those souls saved because of the Faith of courageous French missionaries. If French missionaries never made it to Vietnam, there would have been no Vietnam. But it's Christ that has made France great in History. It will be Christ that makes her great again, but only if she so chooses to remember that she is first for Christ and not for herself.

Saint Bernadette, Saint Bernard of Clairvaux, Saint Clotilda, Saint Denis, Saint Francis of Sales, Saint Genevieve, Saint Hilary of Poitiers, Saint Joan of Arc, Saint Jogues, Saint Isaac John Baptist de la Salle, Saint Louis IX, Margaret Mary Alacoque, Saint Martin, Saint Saint Sextus Alcimus Ecdicius Avitus, Saint Theresa of Lisieux, Saint Vincent de Paul....

Pray for us.
167 posted on 01/18/2005 2:47:16 PM PST by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
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