`Jobs that Americans won't do' filled by desperate migrants

Yahoo! News ^ | Stephen Franklin

[ClintonBeGone]

She is dizzy, almost wobbly. Her head aches, her coughing won't stop, and because she doesn't have enough money she has not filled her four prescriptions nor seen a doctor recently.

But that doesn't stop her.

Soon it will be midnight, and Ipifania Dominguez will be back at work cleaning up blood, bone and fat in the world's largest pork slaughterhouse. She'll be back in the "head room," as she calls it, where meat is cut from pigs' heads.

[PRND21]

C = Caliente?!

[ClintonBeGone]

Imagine that. You have the opportunity to hire a US citizen and yet you don't want to go to the trouble of placing a $12.00 ad to do so.

Maybe you and Sam the Shame can get some government grant going for the labor unions which will allow Presidio to place his ads at the union hall. Of course he'll be required to pay the prevailing wage for nannys or maids, but at least he'll get a free ad and sleep well knowing he's invested in the union lable.

[television is just wrong]

I guess, must be the explaination.

[usadave]

But that's how the market works. Other people are willing to do the job cheaper, so companies hire the cheaper folks.

American companies can always find somebody somewhere in the world who is willing to do a particular job at a lower wage than the person currently doing that job. But American companies are supposed to hire from a pool of workers that includes only Americans and legal immigrants. If it were legal to do so, many companies would get rid of all of their American workers and replace them with cheap imported foreign workers.

[GVnana]

Doesn't economics have the concept of an "externality" where a business can cut its costs by dumping its costs on other ? A business that hires illegals is dumping the cost of the social services (education, health care, law enforcement) they need on the taxpayer.

Absolutely. Assumming of course, that such costs, are indeed paid by the rest of us. That's where the unfairness comes in. If we shipped all the meat-packing, repetitive tool-and-dye, sewing, parts assembly, etc. overseas, we would not have a social cost considering that these jobs are not filled by Americans anyway. Enforcing non-economically viable standards is always a lose.

[Sam the Sham]

You OBL types are essentially mob mouthpieces.

I don't expect that to bother you. So long as you are paid I don't expect much from you along the lines of conscience or shame. But it's important that others understand that your 'arguments' are just fig leaves around greed, lawlessness, and selfishness.

[ClintonBeGone]

A true caddie is supposed to do more than just carry your clubs.

Who are you to tell him what he's suppose to get for his money? You've again displayed the mentality of a nanny state bureaucrat who's just dying to impose a solution where no problem exists.

[Bikers4Bush]

I'm sure there are plenty of non-union folks out there willing to work for $25 an hour.

I find it funny though that you acknowledge that him hiring an illegal could be tied to not wanting to pay the prevailing wage.

Again, telling. About the both of you.

[ClintonBeGone]

No its a big deal, Kerrys promised amnesty was more unedible than Bush's lie about no amnesty...If Kerry had run on an anti-illegal immigration policy he darn well might have won..just look at Hillary posturing..

You keep telling yourself that.

[Bikers4Bush]

That by far is the most mentally deficient of your rants today.

Congrats, you have outdone yourself.

[ClintonBeGone]

You are not sure your maid is legal or not?? In this day and age of lawsuits I can't imagine you putting yourself into this possible situation

If only Tom Tancredo was as careful as you before he hired that illegal alien.

[Dane]

I don't expect that to bother you. So long as you are paid I don't expect much from you along the lines of conscience or shame. But it's important that others understand that your 'arguments' are just fig leaves around greed, lawlessness, and selfishness.

Whatever you say, dues collecting non-wealth creating union leadership parasite.

[ClintonBeGone]

My brother just built a house and 70% of the workers were hispanic who worked for American owners. They have lowered down the wages to 8-9.00 hour from $12-15.00

And what did your brother do with extra cash he saved?

[usadave]

It's still the land of opportunity, despite those that want to slam it's doors closed.

Actually we just want to slam the door to illegal immigration. The United States still lets in about one million LEGAL immigrants a year. As long as a foreigner comes to the United States legally, I have no problem with that.

However, it would be interesting to do away with welfare for ALL and watch the hate filled anti-immigrants have to find a new straw man to beat.

Unfortunately, you're now starting with the name-calling. How self-defeating of you. If you have a good argument for your position, you wouldn't need to resort to that.

[Sam the Sham]

If we shipped all the meat-packing, repetitive tool-and-dye, sewing, parts assembly, etc. overseas, we would not have a social cost considering that these jobs are not filled by Americans anyway.

We most assuredly would have a social cost. Once upon a time those were the jobs in what today are underclass ghettos. And once upon a time those underclass ghettos had stable working class communities. Those light industrial, stable jobs were the ladder by which Irish and Italians had climbed out of the ghetto and they were eliminated at precisely the time Blacks were going to follow. The elimination of many of those jobs, and their being filled by illegals had a devastating impact upon urban blacks. Without stable, light industrial jobs there is no way out of the ghetto.

I think a permanent underclass is a massive social cost.

[PRND21]

If only Tom Tancredo was as careful as you before he hired that illegal alien.

At least he stuck to his term limit pledge.

Oops.

[Bikers4Bush]

You'd do better to ask the builder what he did with the extra cash since there's no way in hell he passed it onto the homeowner.

[ClintonBeGone]

I think the one complaining is the person who thinks that persons of a wrong color actually built the house.

DING DING DING. Bob, we have a winner.

[usadave]

I'm not old enough to remember Jim Crow and segration, but I suspect if you dust off their playbook, you'll find the same agenda, right down to the 'if we let them drink from our fountains, next thing you know they'll be gang raping our daughters'. blah blah blah.

Bringing up Jim Crow and segration? Now you're really getting desperate, not to mention making yourself sound like a fool.

[superiorslots]

Quote: And what did your brother do with extra cash he saved?

My brother was not cheering the lower cost. He was stating fact. As a matter of fact he sells employee benefits and lost many construction type firms over the last 5-10 years because they went belly up or can no longer afford to offer those benefits because they are now having to compete with cut rate wages. It has cost him more money than what he has saved.