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Roe v. Wade Overturned? - MUST READ - ACTION ALERT
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/ ^ | 17 January 2004 | http://www.reclaimamerica.org/

Posted on 01/17/2005 12:53:02 PM PST by davidosborne

C E N T E R F O R R E C L A I M I N G A M E R I C A From the Desk of Dr. Gary Cass, Executive Director + + PRO-LIFE ALERT,

1/17/2005 Supreme Court receives case to overturn Roe v. Wade (Forward to your pro-life friends)

On January 18, the U.S. Supreme Court will begin a process that could overturn Roe v. Wade! Because you have stood with the Center for Reclaiming America on pro-life issues, I wanted to alert you to this news. On January 18, Norma McCorvey (the original "Jane Roe" of Roe v. Wade) will file a legal appeal with the Supreme Court to have Roe v. Wade reversed. I will be in Washington, D.C., on that day to stand with our friends at The Justice Foundation in support of this case. The Justice Foundation has invested thousands upon thousands of hours in this case. They have gathered an enormous body of evidence to support Norma's case. Chris, this is a powerful opportunity to refute Roe v. Wade! Here is how you can help. First, notify your friends. Forward this message to everyone you know. We simply must get the word out. Second, please pray for Norma and the team at The Justice Foundation. Set aside time on January 18, specifically, to pray. Third, find out more about this case and how you can impact The Justice Foundation’s efforts here: http://www.operationoutcry.org Thank you! Dr. Gary Cass Executive Director Center for Reclaiming America + + For CENTER coverage of this issue: http://www.reclaimamerica.org/pages/operation/operationout.asp + + The Center for Reclaiming America, established by Dr. D. James Kennedy, is an outreach of Coral Ridge Ministries to inform the American public and motivate Christians to defend and implement the biblical principles on which our country was founded. The Center, led by Executive Director Dr. Gary Cass, provides non-partisan, non-denominational information, training, and support to all those interested in impacting the culture and renewing the vision set forth by our Founding Fathers. Questions? cfra@coralridge.org


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: 18january2005; abortion; carnie; janurary182005; overturnroevwade; prolife; roevwade; ussc
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To: ravingnutter

Thank you for posting that....


181 posted on 01/18/2005 6:38:08 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Are you speaking for God here? Are you saying this with Godly authority? Or just being negative and pessimistic? There's power in united prayer, no matter what say the naysayers. I believe the stronghold of Roe vs. Wade will definitely be broken, without a doubt. :o)
Glory Hallelujah, Jesus Christ is Lord
Amen


182 posted on 01/18/2005 7:14:54 AM PST by GrannyAnnie (as right as I can be)
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To: davidosborne
You're welcome. I pray that she is successful, although it will not be a complete victory until abortion is totally eradicated as the barbaric practice it is. Science is now clear on when life begins and what the effects are on the mother...there is no longer an excuse for Planned Parenthood and their ilk.
183 posted on 01/18/2005 7:19:32 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

I agree, and the sooner the STATES get busy on deciding this issue, the better off Our Nation will be.


184 posted on 01/18/2005 7:20:52 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: Poohbah; davidosborne

It seems to me that RvW can be assailed on grounds that it is an unconstitutional usurpation of power on the part of the Judiciary at the cost of the federal and state Legislatures.

In effect, the USSC declared that an entire class of homicide is licit. Almost as a side note, it established that an entire class of human beings are not legally "people" and are without the rights described in the constitution - most particularly the 14th Amendment.

Doing this is not among the enumerated powers of the Judiciary.

There is ample established precedent indicating that only the legislatures are empowered to define homicide classes as licit or murder. There is also ample precedent indicating that only the legislatures are empowered to define limitations on rights (eg: age restrictions, imprisonment, etc...).

I don't think RvW could endure a well-prepared challenge on these grounds.

my $.02


185 posted on 01/18/2005 8:19:18 AM PST by King Prout (Halloween... not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: ravingnutter
Her request rests on federal rules that allow an original party to request a ruling be vacated when factual and legal changes make the decision no longer just.

The rule also imposes a 1-year time limit.

186 posted on 01/18/2005 8:22:41 AM PST by Poohbah (God must love fools. He makes so many of them...)
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To: davidosborne
Many would argue this is the ULTIMATE "murder" case

Fine. They're wrong. It's a civil case, and is being treated as such.

187 posted on 01/18/2005 8:23:43 AM PST by Poohbah (God must love fools. He makes so many of them...)
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To: ValerieUSA
Ping!
188 posted on 01/18/2005 8:38:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on January 13, 2005)
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To: Poohbah

Yeah, unless I'm mistaken she doesn't even have legal standing to bring a challenge (I imagine she'll try to show that she's suffering some sort of continuing harm...a non-starter).


189 posted on 01/18/2005 10:54:14 AM PST by Grn_Lantern
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To: davidosborne

This will not happen. We do not have the right (judges on the court) to overturn it. At best they might consider sending this to Congress for action on a law allowing or disallowing abortion. If that were to happen, I for one would feel better about the chances for ending the slaughter of the unborn.


190 posted on 01/18/2005 12:30:42 PM PST by trubluolyguy ("I like you, therefore when I rule the world, your death shall be quick and painless")
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To: Poohbah

Work Hell! I'm retired.


191 posted on 01/18/2005 12:49:09 PM PST by trubluolyguy ("I like you, therefore when I rule the world, your death shall be quick and painless")
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To: davidosborne

MOOT!


192 posted on 01/18/2005 12:57:15 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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To: You Dirty Rats

Roe v. Wade MIGHT be revisited one day, but it won't be the original case that makes that happen, for reasons a number of posters have already posted. There is NO reason why a court (and it doesn't have to be the USSC) can't revisit the case if it finds reason to do so; a Constitutional Amendment is not required. But I do have to say I have mixed feelings about this---it's very poor case law and always was, but at the same time, there are now huge bodies of federal and state law, statutory and case, based on Roe. The resultant chaos of overturning Roe...hard to imagine. And hard to consider such an overturning at this point responsible jurisprudence.


193 posted on 01/18/2005 1:07:15 PM PST by Godot showed up
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To: Poohbah

"the problem is that she is filing 32 years after the case was closed . "
Compare this with the case of "Plessy vs. ferguson "
In that case, the Court stated that Segregation is O.K.
Then, in "Brown vs. the Board of Education " , the court reversed itself . what kind of "Stare Decisis" is that ?
Besides, over the years, since 1972, sonograms, etc. have been developed to show that Life does begin lots earlier than the warren Court thought .
I think the case should be considered .


194 posted on 01/18/2005 1:23:15 PM PST by bdad
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To: bdad
I think the case should be considered .

And, supposing you get your way...

Fifteen years from now, the libs have a 5-4 majority on the court and want to reopen the case AGAIN.

What's your argument against doing so?

195 posted on 01/18/2005 1:31:50 PM PST by Poohbah (God must love fools. He makes so many of them...)
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To: Poohbah
The revisitation is being prompted by Ms. McCorvey's statement that she misled the court.

No, it's not. Her request rests on federal rules that allow an original party to request a ruling be vacated when factual and legal changes make the decision no longer just. Both the legal and scientific environment have changed. Under Rule 60, that entitles her to revisit the question.

Here are some of the changes:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42422

She cites the sworn testimony of more than 1,000 women who say they were hurt by abortion.

McCorvey's lead attorney, Allan Parker, president of the Justice Foundation, believes a significant change in most state laws has solved the issue of women being burdened with the unwanted responsibility of raising a child. The new laws allow a woman to take her newborn to a "safe haven" anonymously, providing a safer alternative to abortion.

McCorvey said each aborted child represents another tragedy, the harm to the mother.

Among McCorvey's 5,437 pages of evidence are affidavits from more than 1,000 women who testify having an abortion has had devastating emotional, physical and psychological effects.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/1/17/221851.shtml

Norma McCorvvey, known as Jane Roe in court filings, told the Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes" on Monday, "We're going to be fling a Motion 60 brief tomorrow with the Supreme Court and ask and plead and beg them to please overturn Roe vs. Wade."

her decision to actively challenge the landmark ruling was spurred, she explained, by new technology that dramatically increased chances for viability for the unborn. She also cited the increase in post-abortion depression among women.

McCorvey's lawyer, Allan Parker, explained the legal process, telling "Hannity & Colmes": "Under Rule 60, Norma, as a party [to the original case], can ask the court to vacate her judgment - set it aside as if it never was - on the grounds that it's no longer just."

196 posted on 01/18/2005 2:21:55 PM PST by TBP
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To: mdmathis6

Given the current makeup of the court, I agree. It will all be set aside by a pro-life court someday soon I hope.


197 posted on 01/18/2005 2:26:30 PM PST by FederalistVet (Hitler was a liberal!)
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To: johnb838

"Yes, a nice witch hunt would be great."

It's more like hunting down cannibals with a trail of 40 million corpses behind them.

"I mean it. Track down the judges who have issued nonsensical, anti-american, leftist rulings, and impeach them one by one."

It takes a very high standard to get a 2/3rds vote in the senate. We don't have enough senate seats yet, but we are getting close.

"What has to happen to impeach a judge? Who tries the case? Who decides?"

It has to be a judge who even ticks off the most left wing of the 2/3rds majority in the senate [or 2/3ds that has the most ticked off constituency.]

The senate votes for removal. First, a hearing is held. Starting a hearing would be the easy part if the majority leader has any guts. Fox News, talk radio, and the internet would most likely display a lot of interest if a Federal judge went through such a process. That could shape the next election cycle. If we pick a mainstream judge, it would go bad for us. If we pick a real leftwing nut, it would go well for us.

Rats would have to fall on their swords like crazy if we pick someone way out there to impeach.


198 posted on 01/18/2005 3:33:32 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Four Law Breakers: Senators Rockefeller, Durbin, Carl Levin, Ron Wyden)
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To: davidosborne

What a big shame. The court won't touch this and their denying the petition will only add fuel to the fire of the other side. I can see the headline "Court Rebuffs Anti-Abortion Activists". Stupid Stupid Stupid.


199 posted on 01/18/2005 3:36:13 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Poohbah

You are perhaps my favorite poster on this site. You always cut through the BS and get to the facts.


200 posted on 01/18/2005 3:37:54 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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