Wakhan region.
Posted on 01/16/2005 8:52:31 PM PST by pikecountyrepublican
Where is the safest area for Bin Laden to survive? Well you may think it will be the Pakistan Afghan border. But that is really most unsafe because that is where people think he is and American forces are looking for him.
You may then think it has to be Pakistan itself. Well that cannot be true with Musharraf fighting the Al-Queda every day.
Some say it is Kashmir then. Well at anytime both, India and Pakistan may decide to comb all of Kashmir and even allow the American Special Forces to join them.
Then where is it that he can hide so well and occasionally stir the world with some audiotapes?
There are places in Afghan and Pakistan that borders with China. That is one area where no one is really looking. It is a small strip of land between Tajikistan and Pakistan and the land terrain such that is difficult to find any one. The Wakhan Corridor from Afghanistan to China is an ideal place for Osama Bin Laden to hide specially within Chinese territory.
There are rumors in the Kashgar market that China may have struck a deal with Osama. In exchange of safe refuge in Wakhan Corridore in China,
Al-Queda will never strike China. China categorically denies any such rumor.
Strategically it may be the ideal place of hiding because the American forces will definitely not venture into Chinese territory without advanced notice to China. Also, the terrain is worse than Afghanistan itself.
China has a sizable Islamic population in that area. The policy Beijing followed before nine eleven terrorism was to have a good relationship with Al-Queda and Talibans. In late 2001, the policy changed with Pakistan making a U-turn on relations with the Taliban and Al-Queda.
China is always very worried about Islamic and Jehadist insurgencies these areas. They used to work with Pakistan, Taliban and Al-Queda to keep their Muslim population happy. But now interestingly, the terror attacks in China are comparatively negligible while they are on rise in Pakistan, Afghanistan and elsewhere. It cannot be true that all of a sudden the Chinese territory became so calm and quiet.
One possible interpretation is that Osama Bin Laden received a safe refuge with Chinese knowledge. China may not be providing the refuge. They are just keeping quiet knowing very well he is in Wakhan Corridor.
It is also possible that Pakistan Military including Musharraf knows that he is there and is keeping quiet about it.
Paris, selling tourist trinkets.
Ah, Indian press.
The the notion that the Chinese Gov't is in cahoots with UBL and securing is safety is simply scifi type thinking - If UBL is using the border range of China it would be without the Chinese Gov't knowing - (there wouldn't be any need for it on UBL's part). Much of that border is simply wide-open for the most part - especially at certain elevations -
Musaraff himself has also been a good ally for us (America). He is in no way knowingly giving UBL safety.
The simple fact is US SOF have not been allowed to operate independently in the Pak border region (for varying reasons....not all associated with Pak Gov't) - Until we have US SOF working independently in this region it will take a one in a million shot at catching UBL -
The athiest Chinese are even more infidel than 'Christian' America. Al Qaeda wouldn't permanently leave China alone.
OBL is indeed in China. He "works" for the ChiComs. al Qaida has always been one of China's asymmetric warfare tools, and to deny that there aren't plenty of obvious links requires total denial.
Wakhan region.
If we knew he was on Chinese territory, I doubt we would attack, but I'm sure we would make the trade situation very dificult for China. They might be willing to risk that in order to get Taiwan back, but they'd have to be insane to do it for the sake of an international pariah who hates them.
exactly.
al quaida is a sock puppet for our enemies.
and there are quite a few of them.
CHINA is the very center of the axis of evil on any map of the globe you see. You cannot draw the line from tehran to n korea, without going through the 'meat' of china.
Thanks for posting this.
The Indian papers are excellent, following in the tradition of the Brits that taught 'em the business and forging ahead with local angles.
In this case the report is somewhat verified by Colin Powell's bizarre behavior a few months ago when he declared Taiwan a permanent part of China. (Sorry I don't have the reference.) There was no obvious reason for this statement at the time.
So, I wondered why he'd make this gratuitous concession to the tong yans of the Mandarin empire. Finally it dawned on me. China and the US are fighting the same enemy: Saudi Money and crazed jihadis.
Powell's concession must've been the price the Chinese demanded for allowing US special ops into their country to cooperate in eliminating the terrorists operating in the panhandle of Afghanistan.
The whole thing makes sense when we remember that China is no longer a revolutionary country, but rather a trading nation, longing for peace. Terrorists disrupt economic activity and that's not allowed any more.
The world is changing, Freepmates, and we've got to pay attention.
Thanks again for reading the Indian papers.
If Osama is in Chinese territory and the Chinese have knowledge, he is like the monkey on the crocodiles back.
Find Waldo.....and blow him to hell.
Bin Laden may very well be in China. I believe he is in Pakistan. In Karachi there are places that the police will not enter. Not hard to hide when the authorities can't even drive down the street.
I hate to disagree, but if you think the Chinese are our allies in this or any other situation, I believe you are mistaken.
Osama is driving a cab in Manhattan.
Simply false - You seem boogeymen where there are none. China has nothing to do with Al Qeade directly nor indirectly via any master plan.
UBL is ekking out a survival in the Pak border region. Where he has been since Dec 2001 -
This is an interesting development.
As you say, the Chinese are *not* our allies.
Yet, the pressures of trade will make them behave, anyway.
As their economy develops, and the Chinese people find themselves enmeshed in the spider web of trade relations, it will be harder for the Chinese tyrants to play the old "permanent revolution" game.
Add to this a horrific fear of internal disintegration, like the Soviet Union experienced, and the Chinese leadership will do anything to try to keep their crumbling empire from breaking up into a dozen new countries.
We ought to start a pool. When will China break up?
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