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China Fails Tsunami Test
MSNBC ^

Posted on 01/16/2005 6:30:16 PM PST by iddygents

China fails the tsunami test Big power ambitions, bit player when the chips are down

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; chinesegovernment; chinesemilitary; chinesenavy; russia; tsunami
As the ships, aircraft and crews of the Australian, New Zealand, Indonesian and Indian navies rushed to the aid of a region scoured by a tsunami, joining a large American flotilla and various British, Thai, Japanese and Malaysian units, the Chinese fleet remained in port.

In fact, the only significant statement from China’s defense ministry in the days following the tsunami was a Dec. 27 announcement that China and Russia would hold major air and naval war games later this year.

News reports of that announcement focused on Russia’s motives – it was speculated that this was Moscow’s way of showing how irritated Russia was that its tampering with Ukraine’s election had been thwarted by Western pressure. Yet the tin ear China showed for the suffering of its neighbors is even more important. At a time when tens of thousands in its neighborhood were at risk of starvation, dehydration and disease, China’s focus was right where it has been for centuries: China.

Like many countries, China committed money to tsunami relief -- $63 million, carefully trumping the $50 million pledged by its diminutive rival, Taiwan. Beijing also sent a number of search and rescue teams to the region and has encouraged private giving. (In contrast, Japan’s $500 million was the top pledge by any country until Wednesday, when Australia's $764 and Germany's $674 leapfrogged it.

To be sure, China's $63 million donation is welcomed, as is any aid from any country. But China is not just any country, particularly not in East and Southeast Asia, where its break-neck economic growth and maturing military might cast a large and long shadow.

Some Americans, and some in the region, may think it just as well that China remains a one-dimensional player on the world scene, a kind of gigantic idiot savant with a monster economy but no desire to engage in any foreign affairs issue that won’t be a direct benefit to it. That is an understandable sentiment, given the potential for China to be a disruptive, authoritarian force in world.

1 posted on 01/16/2005 6:30:16 PM PST by iddygents
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To: iddygents
gigantic idiot savant with a monster economy but no desire to engage in any foreign affairs issue that won’t be a direct benefit to it.

Well since the world rushes in to clean up China's back yard, why should it bother to lift a finger... Its getting the problem taken care of at no expense to it....

2 posted on 01/16/2005 6:34:39 PM PST by konaice
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Of course the article beats around the bush of simple reality: Authoritarian communist scumbags care nothing about humanity, international law, or anything else except how much they can get away with. China will care less that it failed the nonexistent "tsunami test."


3 posted on 01/16/2005 6:34:59 PM PST by Williams
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If I could pull it off, I would cut off all business, in or out of, Commie China (excepting Taiwan) until those pinko maggots killed communism in their country and started supporting real human rights. I think the world would be shocked how quickly they would come around, since enough capitalism and its results, have influenced even the old-line Pinkos.

But no one seems to have the guts to do it...the dollar is more important than freedom and human rights.
4 posted on 01/16/2005 6:39:23 PM PST by EagleUSA
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How many millions of his own people did Mao "eliminate" ?


5 posted on 01/16/2005 6:45:08 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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As badly as I feel for all the innocents who have suffered by the tsunami and lost their homes and loved ones, I doubt that the U.S. will get much credit for its generosity. That's not how the world works. If we do it, we do it for the sake of doing it, not for some imagined payback.

People in Asia may not love China, but China doesn't want to be loved. They want to be feared and respected. And they will be.


6 posted on 01/16/2005 6:45:27 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Let's see some debt relief to compensate for our carrier presence.


7 posted on 01/16/2005 6:48:01 PM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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If I could pull it off, I would cut off all business, in or out of, Commie China (excepting Taiwan) until those pinko maggots killed communism in their country and started supporting real human rights. I think the world would be shocked how quickly they would come around, since enough capitalism and its results, have influenced even the old-line Pinkos.

I would also like to see us cease trading with Red China. I am not sanguine about its negative effect on them (although it would be great if it did slam their economy, I suspect that Chinese trade with the Europe Union would only increase -- we're not China's largest trading partner, the EU is), but I believe that it is wrong for us to in any way support such a vile totalitarian regime. We don't allow trade with Cuba, we didn't allow trade with North Korea, and we certainly didn't feed Soviet communism like we now do the Chinese.

8 posted on 01/16/2005 6:52:56 PM PST by snowsislander
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Like many countries, China committed money to tsunami relief -- $63 million, carefully trumping the $50 million pledged by its diminutive rival, Taiwan.

It was be interesting -- though I doubt surprising, or reported -- to see which one actually comes through with the money.

9 posted on 01/16/2005 7:19:54 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
How many millions of his own people did Mao "eliminate" ?

25,000,000 (25m) is the conservative estimate. The actually figure will never be known.

10 posted on 01/16/2005 7:21:34 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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China is treading real, real cautiously in Indonesia as both are claimimg the SPRATELYS

the Indonesians are really sensitive about Chinese naval warships hanging around

The Sri Lankans and India also do not ish to embrace Chinese arm forces personnels


11 posted on 01/17/2005 11:50:24 PM PST by Smiling-Face TIGER
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