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Police: No War Stress for Marine Who Killed Cop
WPVI.COM ^ | Jan 16 2005 | AP

Posted on 01/16/2005 4:05:48 PM PST by pickemuphere

CERES, CA-January 16, 2005 — A Marine who killed one town police officer and wounded another one was a gang member who was high on cocaine, not a combat veteran suffering from post-traumatic stress, police said.

Investigators said they are discounting a theory that Lance Cpl. Andres Raya, 19, may have instigated a "suicide by cop" – provoking officers to shoot him – because he did not want to return to Iraq.

"During our investigation, we found he wasn't due to go back to Iraq, never faced combat situations and never even fired his gun," Stanislaus County Sheriff's Deputy Jason Woodman said Saturday.

Raya shot the two officers with a rifle outside a liquor store on Jan. 9 before police returned fire and killed him.

Raya's family and friends denied he was involved with a gang and said he was changed by the seven months he spent in Iraq before returning in September to Camp Pendleton near San Diego. They said he became withdrawn and unable to hold a conversation, and told them gruesome stories of house-to-house combat and of watching Marines commit suicide. They said he questioned the war and said he did not want to go back.

But Woodman said investigators found that Raya's transport unit never saw combat and that he was recently transferred to a unit scheduled to be deployed to Okinawa.

(Excerpt) Read more at abclocal.go.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: California
KEYWORDS: cokefiend; marines; nostress; semperfi
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MSM jumped the gun again... Sounds as if this guy was a regular ol' cokehead.
1 posted on 01/16/2005 4:05:50 PM PST by pickemuphere
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The story sounded too custom built for the media.


2 posted on 01/16/2005 4:07:40 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: pickemuphere

I doubted his "Rambo" status from the start...


3 posted on 01/16/2005 4:09:09 PM PST by JDoutrider
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yup, except one that reflects poorly on my beloved Corps
4 posted on 01/16/2005 4:09:48 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (I believe in American Exceptionalism! Do you?)
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To: pickemuphere

and other than Free Republic, we will read this where? The "death by cop" story was all over the media a week ago.


5 posted on 01/16/2005 4:11:42 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yup, it really sounds like death by being a punk.


6 posted on 01/16/2005 4:11:47 PM PST by Thebaddog (Dawgs on the coffee table.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yup, it really sounds like death by being a punk.


7 posted on 01/16/2005 4:12:47 PM PST by Thebaddog (Dawgs on the coffee table.)
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To: pickemuphere

You mean the NY Times was being irresponsible, just to score another hit in the public's perception of the Iraq war? Hard to believe. I'm sure the correction will appear above the fold too.


8 posted on 01/16/2005 4:12:48 PM PST by PianoMan (and now back to practicing)
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To: pickemuphere

Had this been ten or fifteen years ago there would have been no one to refute the PTSD story.


9 posted on 01/16/2005 4:16:59 PM PST by squarebarb
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To: pickemuphere

How dare these guys reveal this new and correct information? It's not the party line!!!


10 posted on 01/16/2005 4:17:46 PM PST by No Longer Free State
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I watched the videos of this incident on www.ogrish.com. Do NOT go to that site with CHILDREN hovering around. It's a fairly vile site.

This guy did NOT attempt "suicide by cop". He was fairly efficient with what looked like some sort of carbine fully automatic weapon.
11 posted on 01/16/2005 4:19:40 PM PST by hiredhand (Pudge the Indestructible Kitty lives at http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
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I can go either way on this story... mainly because the police around here (the central San Joaquin Valley where it happened) are VERY trigger happy.


12 posted on 01/16/2005 4:33:42 PM PST by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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I'll bet his record in the Marines is marred by busted rank for problems.


13 posted on 01/16/2005 4:34:30 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence applies in all cases)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I'm surprised Dan Blather didn't break this story from his retirement bunker...


14 posted on 01/16/2005 4:36:07 PM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (Gettin' a PhD (Prettyhard on Democrats) at FR)
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"They said he became withdrawn and unable to hold a conversation, and told them gruesome stories of house-to-house combat and of watching Marines commit suicide."

He never even faced a combat situation...why does this seem SO familiar?

15 posted on 01/16/2005 4:38:51 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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Mash Here
18 posted on 01/16/2005 5:08:09 PM PST by jdontom (BacktheBadge)
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I doubt it. He was a 19 year old Lance Corporal. Thats a good rank to be at 19. Even if he had been busted it would take awhile ot reach Lcpl again.


19 posted on 01/16/2005 5:09:16 PM PST by BBell
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Sounds as if this guy was a regular ol' cokehead.

He was not a big druggy, but was also an ignorant, gang banger cockroach.

20 posted on 01/16/2005 5:11:18 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (No more illegal alien sympathizers from Texas. America has one too many.)
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