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1 posted on 01/16/2005 2:47:21 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Democrats need Southern strategy.

And an Northern strategy. And an Eastern strategy. And a Western strategy...a Northwestern strategy...a Mid-Western strategy...

2 posted on 01/16/2005 2:50:12 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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Here's your southern strategy, lib/dems:

But that would make too much sense, wouldn't it?

3 posted on 01/16/2005 2:50:49 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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Southern strategy?

When Hillary runs, the Dems and MSM will anoint her Saint Hillary of Ark. That will help her touch multiple constituencies simultaneously.
4 posted on 01/16/2005 2:54:35 PM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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Very good observation, The only problem is the South is full of Democrats, there just isn't a Democratic representation in the upper levels that they will follow into their extreme liberalism.

The Liberal party has overthrown the DIMocratic party management, but the voters haven't followed. DUMmies


5 posted on 01/16/2005 2:57:56 PM PST by PROSOUTH ( Deo Vindice "God Will Vindicate")
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Democrats need to work on connecting with the American people and shared American values again. Pandering to the likes of the DUmmie fringe of society will continue to be the cause of the party's demise, and no amount of strategy and spin can change this. Democrat talking heads like to say that they didn't get their message out, but once again fail to realize that their message does not appeal to the majority of Americans, especially in the South.

Zell Miller has been telling them this for a couple of years now. If they can't listen to one of their own, then they are completely lost.

6 posted on 01/16/2005 2:59:44 PM PST by SaveTheChief (There are 10 types of people -- those who understand binary, and those who don't.)
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Democrats are just going to have to become better liars. Their current crop of lies is transparent, and the truth would drive more votes away.


7 posted on 01/16/2005 3:00:46 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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The Dems don't need the South. They need Ohio.


8 posted on 01/16/2005 3:13:03 PM PST by Torie
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Absent a major political realignment, there isn't a single Southern state (other than Florida, which really isn't "Southern" culturally), where a Democratic Presidential candidate figures to run close to national Dem figures -- and in most cases, the gap will be huge. Virginia is probably the next most realistic Dem hope, as the NoVa DC burbs continue to grow rapidly, but the state wasn't very close in 2004.

In the near-term future, Dems will carry Southern states only in the event of a national Dem rout. There will be a realignment some day, of course. Nothing stays the same forever in politics. But the South looks to be a GOP stronghold for at least the next couple of decades. And that's with the obligatory white Protestant Southern male occupying one or both places on the Dem ticket. One wonders when they'll jettison that strategy.

9 posted on 01/16/2005 3:15:22 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (OK, Congress is back in session -- Where's my tax cuts for the rich? )
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In 1992, with Bill Clinton heading the ticket, Democrats were competitive in the South. Running a centrist campaign, Clinton won five Southern states.

Morons. It's because of Bill Clinton's eight years in the White House that cost Democrats a southern strategy.

11 posted on 01/16/2005 3:19:13 PM PST by LdSentinal
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If anything, the Dems chances in the south are getting worse as more and more whites are moving to the GOP. There are only two white Democratic US Congressmen from Texas today, and realitistically, there should be none the way the districts were re-drawn.

Democrats in the South tend to be black, hispanic, or the university-type white liberals.

12 posted on 01/16/2005 3:19:24 PM PST by Dog Gone
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“A Democratic Party without the South is a little bit like greens without the cornbread.”

I'd say the Greens are FULL of "cornbread."


13 posted on 01/16/2005 3:23:17 PM PST by Socratic (Ignorant and free? It's not to be! - T. Jefferson (paraphrase))
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The only Southern Strategy that will work for Democrats is for them to quit being the party of Unlimited Homosexual Legal Jihad and Unlimited Abortion. Until then, forget it.


14 posted on 01/16/2005 3:23:43 PM PST by spodefly (This message packaged with desiccant. Do not open until ready for use or inspection.)
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" In 2004, Democrats proved they could win at the state and local level but not nationally."

What did they win locally. We gained representatives, senators, governors. Oh, they stole Washington Gov by fraud.


18 posted on 01/16/2005 3:30:19 PM PST by lawdude (Leftists see what they believe. Conservatives believe what they see.)
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They're going to need to find God for real to have a chance.


19 posted on 01/16/2005 3:37:21 PM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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Didn't Algore have one ?


26 posted on 01/16/2005 3:53:17 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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I thought the Dims had a southern strategy: to breed and import non-hispanic Whites into the minority?


29 posted on 01/16/2005 3:57:58 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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They need a strategy that is effective outside about 20 large cities.


31 posted on 01/16/2005 4:01:15 PM PST by meyer (Our greatest opponent is a candidate called Complacency.)
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Maybe if the wacked out left side of these Dems would stop trying to tear down and destroy Southern heritage, and all things Confederate, maybe they'd have a chance.
"I wish I were in Dixie"


35 posted on 01/16/2005 4:14:06 PM PST by Isabelle
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"We Democrats aren't writing off the South even though they are a bunch of ignorant hayseed rubes from Jesusland who are too stupid to abort their own children and marry people of their own gender. We compassionate Democrats will tell them how to live thier lives so they won't have to think."


36 posted on 01/16/2005 4:20:03 PM PST by Tall_Texan (Let's REALLY Split The Country! (http://righteverytime3.blogspot.com))
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The Dems need a comprehensive overhaul of the same nature as the GOP undertook after Senator Goldwater took a thrashing from LBJ in 1964. It took the GOP until the mid-80's to clarify the consistency of a recurrent message that has led to their contemporary domination of the two elected branches and the dominant philosophy of the judiciary. It would be a serious matter for the present GOP policy group to adopt a sense of hubris that believes the current condition will continue without change that sees the Dems back in a majority position. History is an infallable window into the future and no party has ever dominated American politics longer than the 1932 - 1968 period.


37 posted on 01/16/2005 4:20:03 PM PST by middie
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