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How Many U.S. Muslims?
http://www.danielpipes.org/pf.php?id=76 ^ | October 29, 2001 | by Daniel Pipes

Posted on 01/16/2005 12:39:06 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK

How many Muslims live in the United States?

Until now, basically, no one has had any idea. By law, the U.S. Census cannot ask questions about religion. There are also plenty of other difficulties in coming up with a number, starting with the problem of defining who is a Muslim: Does one include non-standard believers like Louis Farrakhan and the Druze?

Uncertainty has generated some wildly divergent numbers. A large 1990 demographic survey counted 1.3 million Muslims. In 1998, a Pakistani newspaper put the number at 12 million. Even the usually authoritative Yearbook of American and Canadian Churches found 527,000 American Muslims in 1996 and six times as many (3.3 million) in 1998.

Needing some kind of consensus figure, Muslim organizations came up with a self-acknowledged "guestimation" of 6 million, which this year they decided to raise to 7 million.

These numbers were so widely adopted (even by this writer) that they acquired a sheen of authority. But repetition does not transform a guess into a fact.

The trouble is a generic one; religious organizations commonly inflate their membership to enhance their voice in the public square.

Fortunately, the smog of imprecision finally lifted last week, with the appearance of two authoritative studies by highly regarded demographers. (Each study relied on respondents' religious self-identification.) Interestingly, they agreed on a very similar number, one much smaller than the old guestimate.

The American Religious Identification Survey 2001 carried out by the Graduate Center of the City University of New York polled more than 50,000 people and found the total American Muslim population to be 1.8 million.

Meanwhile, the University of Chicago's Tom Smith reviewed prior national surveys and (in a study sponsored by the American Jewish Committee) found that the best estimate puts the Muslim population in 2000 at 1,886,000. (With a nod toward figures supplied by Islamic organizations, he allowed that this number could be as high as 2,814,000 Muslims.)

In other words, two authoritative studies carried out by scholars found that American Muslims number under 2 million - less than a third of the hitherto-consensus number.

To this, the militant Islamic groups in Washington - widely but erroneously seen as representative of American Muslims - responded with predictable hyperbole. The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) furiously accused Smith's report of working "to block Muslim political participation."

The American Muslim Council (AMC) charged Smith with nothing less than trying to "deny the existence of 41/2 million American Muslims" and blamed him for "tearing at the very heart of America."

The AMC also amusingly claimed that its own estimate of "more than 7 million" Muslims came from the 2000 Census figures - erroneously thinking that the Census asks about religion.

Oh, and that's the same AMC which in 1992 pressured a researcher named Fareed Nu'man to find 6 million Muslims in the country; Nu'man later testified that he counted just 3 million and was fired by the AMC when he refused to inflate his number above 5 million.

Why does the militant Islamic lobby insist on the 6-7 million figures? Because a larger number, even if phony, offers it enhanced access and clout. Convincing the Republican Party that Muslims number 8 million, for example, led to urgent calls from its chairman for "meeting with [Muslim] leaders," something which becomes less of a priority when the Muslim population turns out to be much smaller.

Knowing the real number of Muslims will, most immediately, likely impede two militant Islamic efforts now underway: one (pushed by The Minaret magazine) to get Americans to acknowledge that their own misdeeds partially caused the atrocities of Sept. 11; and another (led by CAIR) to halt the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan. The longer-range implications will be yet more significant.


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1 posted on 01/16/2005 12:39:07 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
The AMC also amusingly claimed that its own estimate of "more than 7 million" Muslims came from the 2000 Census figures - erroneously thinking that the Census asks about religion.

Wait, isn't this the "American Museum Council" that contributed so generously to Senator Clinton's campaign?

2 posted on 01/16/2005 12:44:31 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Q:How many Muslims are there in America?
A:Too many.


3 posted on 01/16/2005 12:44:42 PM PST by Old_Mil
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK; EdReform; Thinkin' Gal; mrflashrifle; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; ...
 

Holy War on the Home Front

(An excerpt) FROM THE PUBLISHER

"Nearly three years after 9/11, the war on terror is far from over. In fact, a leading terrorism expert argues that despite the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the efforts of the Department of Homeland Security, we're not really any safer at all.

Harvey Kushner, a respected adviser to the FBI, the FAA, the INS, and other government agencies, offers frightening new evidence of a unified Islamic terrorist network that is operating inside the United States and planning new opportunities to strike.

Kushner identifies and assesses the violent plans of these Islamic organizations and individuals who take advantage of our reluctance to engage in ethnic profiling. He supports his claims with never-before-seen documents from top-level government sources, exposing a secret network of Arab intelligence agencies, terrorists, university professors, corrupt imams and other religious leaders, and violent criminals.

Some members of this network are recent immigrants; others have been American citizens for years. Some are laundering money from abroad through seemingly innocuous charities and mosques. Some have even infiltrated our military as Arabic translators and Muslim chaplains..."

The influential Washington-based Center for Security Police recently unveiled a groundbreaking report entitled, "Terrorism Investments of the 50 States."   This report analyzes the investment portfolios of America's leading public pension funds.  The key finding of the report is that America's 87 largest and most influential pension systems invest some $200 billion in companies that provide revenues, advanced technology, equipment and moral cover to governments that enable terrorism.  (This detailed report and related materials can be obtained at www.DivestTerror.org.)

To be sure, there is nothing illegal about investing in any of the roughly 400 companies that partner with our enemies' friends.  Nor is it illegal for such companies to do business with terrorist-sponsoring regimes.  Whether the law prohibits such activities or not, however, we believe most Americans will agree with us that they are wrong â?" wrong morally, wrong strategically and wrong financially. 

Consequently, DivestTerror.org offers a "how-to" manual showing ways in which investors, taxpayers and other citizens can bring pressure to bear to convert this $200 billion investment into leverage that can be used to help defeat terrorism.  Reduced to its essence, the idea is this: By divesting the stock of these companies, public pension systems, university endowments and even individual investors can send a powerful message to the companies that provide life-support to many of the planet's most dangerous regimes. You can choose to continue to partner with rogue state regimes that aid and abet terrorism.  Or you can do business with American investors and capital markets.  But you can no longer do both. 

As the DivestTerror.org website makes clear, divestment campaigns have already proven to be highly effective instruments.  In fact, over the last twenty years, institutional and private investors have repeatedly used their financial leverage to initiate social change.  For instance, these efforts have been used to bring pressure on stocks of companies involved in tobacco, alcohol, gambling, guns and environmentally insensitive behavior.  Arguably, the best-known example to date was the shareholder activism that used divestment to force the apartheid government of South Africa to abandon its heinous apartheid policy.  Subsequently, that government was forced to surrender power. 

By applying this model to companies doing business in terrorist-sponsoring states, we hope to achieve a success no less momentous than that accomplished in South Africa.  All it will take is for Americans like you to feel empowered to play a role in the war on terror, to make known your views against investment in terrorist-sponsoring states and to use tools like those provided by DivestTerror.org to target and maximize the effectiveness of your activism.  Please visit this informative and useful site and to join in the campaign it is now waging to defeat those who threaten not only our lives, but those of our children and grandchildren, as well.


4 posted on 01/16/2005 12:44:55 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

There are now 4 less US Christians after the murder in Jersey City....


5 posted on 01/16/2005 12:45:07 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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6 posted on 01/16/2005 12:45:34 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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This may help?
Country Name Total Population Muslims Percentage Number of Muslims
Afghanistan 22,664,136 100% 22,664,136
Albania 3,249,136 75% 2,436,852
Algeria 29,183,032 99% 28,891,202
Angola 10,342,899 25% 2,585,725
Antigua and Barbuda 65,647 n/a
Argentina 34,672,997 2 693,460
Aruba 67,794 5 3,390
Australia 18,260,863 2.09 382,000
Azerbaijan 7,676,953 93.4 7,170,274
Bahrain 590,042 100 590,042
Benin 5,709,529 15 856,429
Bangladesh 123,062,800 85 104,603,380
Bhutan 1,822,625 5 91,131
Bosnia and Herzegovina 2,656,240 40 1,062,496
Botswana 1,477,630 5 73,882
Brazil 162,661,214 0.6 1,000,000
Brunei 299,939 63 188,962
Bulgaria 8,612,757 14 1,205,786
Burkina Faso 10,623,323 50 5,311,662
Burma 45,975,625 10 4,597,563
Burundi 5,943,057 20 1,188,611
Cambodia 10,861,218 1 108,612
Cameroon 14,261,557 55 7,843,856
Canada 28,820,671 1.48 400,000
Central African Republic 3,274,426 55 1,800,934
Chad 6,976,845 85 5,930,318
China 1,210,004,956 11 133,100,545
Christmas Island 813 10 81
Cocos (Keeling) Island 609 57 347
Comoros 569,237 86 489,544
Congo 2,527,841 15 379,176
Cote d'Ivoire 14,762,445 60 8,857,467
Croatia 5,004,112 1.2 60,049
Cyprus 744,609 33 245,721
Djibouti 427,642 94 401,983
Egypt 63,575,107 94 59,760,601
Equatorial Guinea 431,282 25 107,821
Eritrea 3,427,883 80 2,742,306
Ethiopia 57,171,662 65 37,161,580
Fiji 782,381 11 86,062
France 58,317,450 7 4,082,222
Gabon 1,172,798 1 11,728
Gambia 1,204,984 90 1,084,486
Gaza Strip 923,940 98.7 911,929
Georgia 5,219,810 11 574,179
Germany 83,536,115 3.4 2,840,228
Ghana 17,698,271 30 5,309,481
Gibraltar 28,765 8 2,301
Greece 10,538,594 1.5 158,079
Guinea 7,411,981 95 7,041,382
Guinea-Bissau 1,151,330 70 805,931
Guyana 712,091 15 106,814
Hong Kong 6,305,413 1 63,054
India 952,107,694 14 133,295,077
Indonesia 206,611,600 95 196,281,020
Iran 66,094,264 99 65,433,321
Iraq 21,422,292 97 20,779,623
Israel 5,421,995 14 759,079
Italy 57,460,274 1 574,603
Japan 125,449,703 1 1,254,497
Jordan 4,212,152 95 4,001,544
Kazakstan 16,916,463 51.2 8,661,229
Kenya 28,176,686 29.5 8,312,122
Kuwait 1,950,047 89 1,735,542
Kyrgyzstan 4,529,648 76.1 3,447,062
Lebanon 3,776,317 70 2,643,422
Liberia 2,109,789 30 632,937
Libya 5,445,436 100 5,445,436
Lesotho 1,970,781 10 197,078
Macedonia 2,104,035 30 631,211
Madagascar 13,670,507 20 2,734,101
Malawi 9,452,844 35 3,308,495
Malaysia 19,962,893 52 10,380,704
Maldives 270,758 100 270,758
Mali 9,653,261 90 8,687,935
Malta 375,576 14 52,581
Mauritania 2,336,048 100 2,336,048
Mauritius 1,140,256 19.5 222,350
Mayotte 100,838 99 99,830
Mongolia 2,496,617 4 99,865
Morocco 29,779,156 98.7 29,392,027
Mozambique 17,877,927 29 5,184,599
Namibia 1,677,243 5 83,862
Nepal 22,094,033 4 883,761
Netherlands 15,568,034 3 467,041
Niger 9,113,001 91 8,292,831
Nigeria 103,912,489 75 77,934,367
Norway 4,438,547 1.5 66,578
Oman 2,186,548 100 2,186,548
Pakistan 129,275,660 97 125,397,390
Panama 2,655,094 4 106,204
Philippines 74,480,848 14 10,427,319
Qatar 547,761 100 547,761
Reunion 679,198 20 135,840
Romania 21,657,162 20 4,331,432
Russia 148,178,487 18 26,672,127
Rwanda 6,853,359 1 68,534
Saudi Arabia 19,409,058 100 19,409,058
Senegal 9,092,749 95 8,638,112
Serbia and Montenegro 10,614,558 19 2,016,766
Sierra Leone 4,793,121 65 3,115,529
Singapore 3,396,924 17 577,477
Slovenia 1,951,443 1 19,514
Somalia 9,639,151 100 9,639,151
South Africa 41,743,459 2 834,869
Sri Lanka 18,553,074 9 1,669,777
Sudan 31,547,543 85 26,815,412
Suriname 436,418 25 109,105
Swaziland 998,730 10 99,873
Sweden 9,800,000 3.6 320,000
Syria 15,608,648 90 14,047,783
Tajikistan 5,916,373 85 5,028,917
Tanzania 29,058,470 65 18,888,006
Thailand 58,851,357 14 8,239,190
Togo 4,570,530 55 2,513,792
Trinidad and Tobago 1,272,385 12 152,686
Tunisia 9,019,687 98 8,839,293
Turkey 62,484,478 99.8 62,359,509
Turkmenistan 4,149,283 87 3,609,876
Uganda 20,158,176 36 7,256,943
United Arab Emirates 3,057,337 96 2,935,044
United Kingdom 58,489,975 2.7 1,579,229
United States 266,476,278 3.75 9,992,860
Uzbekistan 23,418,381 88 20,608,175
West Bank 1,427,741 75 1,070,806
Western Sahara 222,631 100 222,631
Yemen 13,483,178 99 13,348,346
Zaire 46,498,539 10 4,649,854
Zambia 9,159,072 15 1,373,861
Zimbabwe 11,271,314 15 1,690,697


7 posted on 01/16/2005 12:46:50 PM PST by americanbychoice2
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To: Old_Mil

My thought exactly. Were we insane, letting these people who hate us enough to kill us settle in great gobs in so many of our cities? Who in the world thought that was a smart idea? And why should our children and grandchildren pay with their blood for the curse of political correctness in this generation?


8 posted on 01/16/2005 12:47:10 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: SheLion

Terrible Map. They didn't include the group from Portland that tried to go to Afghanistan. They also missed other groups that trained here.


9 posted on 01/16/2005 12:47:35 PM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: Kozak
There are now 4 less US Christians after the murder in Jersey City....

I was thinking the same thing. :(

10 posted on 01/16/2005 12:48:39 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

I can't believe what the gays have pushed on us through organizing and lobbying....wouldn't surprise me if Muslims convinced the democrats to take up their cause...and then it would be seen as "reasonable" debate. I know there are supposedly some good Muslims...but I have an innate distrust for all of them. They can all take their headscarves and their 6th century practices back to the desert as far as I'm concerned.


11 posted on 01/16/2005 12:49:10 PM PST by Aria
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To: SheLion

Thanks for the ping!


12 posted on 01/16/2005 12:49:17 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

I can't believe what the gays have pushed on us through organizing and lobbying....wouldn't surprise me if Muslims convinced the democrats to take up their cause...and then it would be seen as "reasonable" debate. I know there are supposedly some good Muslims...but I have an innate distrust for all of them. They can all take their headscarves and their 6th century practices back to the desert as far as I'm concerned.


13 posted on 01/16/2005 12:50:30 PM PST by Aria
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To: Andy from Beaverton

Terrible Map. They didn't include the group from Portland that tried to go to Afghanistan. They also missed other groups that trained here.

Oh! It's not my map.  This map was published in 2002 and I have been told by several that new Mosque's have sprung up that aren't even on this map.

Steve Emerson published a book and put out this map.  I wish I could get an updated one, that's for sure.

"This is an amazing book. Brilliantly argued and meticulously documented, this book contains a devastating expose of the murderous deceit behind contemporary apologists for militant Islam--in the media, political arena, academia and "mainstream" radical Islamic groups. Read this book to learn why Islamic extremism is dangerously entrenched within the institutional Islamic leadership in Saudi Arabia and the United States." -- Steven Emerson, author of American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us and Director of the Investigative Project.

 

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14 posted on 01/16/2005 12:51:07 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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How many Muslims?

Well, considering that roughly 60,000 illegal immigrants designated as 'other-than-Mexican,' or OTMs, were detained last year along the U.S.-Mexico border, including a sizable number from Arab and Muslim countries, I suspect there are a helluva lot more than what most people believe.

15 posted on 01/16/2005 12:51:19 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Madame Dufarge

Who cares? Who cares how many Christians? I'd like to know how many patriots there are out there. I'd like to know how many folks out there support our ultimate rights, the rights to person and property. When those are truly preserved, everything else is derivative.


16 posted on 01/16/2005 12:51:53 PM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

I don't believe the question is how many Muslims, that IMHO is irrelevant...The question should be how many terrorist?


17 posted on 01/16/2005 12:52:03 PM PST by Drango (Tag lines must be registered before approval.)
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I suspect there are a helluva lot more than what most people believe.

So do I Mr. Mojo.

18 posted on 01/16/2005 12:52:30 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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How many Muslims live in the United States?

The spate of bombing and American throat-slitting articles lately makes me realize that Islamics are basically Nazis without the snappy fashion sense.

19 posted on 01/16/2005 12:52:39 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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What ever their number-it does not take that many Muslims to change a light bulb of truth into a moral vacuume of, terror, torture, murder, ignorance, lies and darkness.


20 posted on 01/16/2005 12:53:56 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (The Progrossive Democrats are never so small a minority that they can't screw every thing up.)
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