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Santa Clarita, CA newspaper The Signal, poll on day laborers,
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Posted on 01/16/2005 12:34:54 PM PST by islandman78

An online poll on The Signal newspaper site, the-signal.com, wants your opinion on the presence of day laborers alongside San Fernando Road.

A little background

Yes, about a couple dozen day laborers are standing alongside the curb of San Fernando road here in a suburb of Los Angeles.

I must say that in the last six months, I have noticed an uptick. This may be do to a crack down in other neighborhoods and it is pooling them into this area. Then again, it may be additional supply of labor, legal or illegal.

What do you think? Vote at http://www.the-signal.com

You will find the poll alongside the left column under the header Reader Meter.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; freep; immigration; newspaper; poll; santaclarita; thesignal

1 posted on 01/16/2005 12:34:57 PM PST by islandman78
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To: islandman78

day laborer, the new word for BUM!


2 posted on 01/16/2005 12:36:00 PM PST by zzen01
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To: zzen01

They at least make it look like they want work. Not panhandling!


4 posted on 01/16/2005 12:41:51 PM PST by handy old one (Never confuse the facts with the issues!!)
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To: islandman78
It's obvious this poll is being manipulated by Pro-Illegals. At this time 40% say do nothing, 21% I think say build a "Hiring Hall'. And these results in Ca - A place being overwhelmed with Illegals!
5 posted on 01/16/2005 12:43:03 PM PST by drt1
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To: islandman78

I voted for a hiring hall. :)


6 posted on 01/16/2005 12:45:44 PM PST by blackie
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To: islandman78

I didn't like my choices. Didn't vote.


7 posted on 01/16/2005 12:50:22 PM PST by CAluvdubya (From the RED part of California)
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To: zzen01

No, a bum is someone who chooses not to work. At least teh "day laborers" would like to work.


8 posted on 01/16/2005 12:57:12 PM PST by It's me
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To: zzen01
day laborer, the new word for BUM!

I have worked with some of these guys, and they are definitely not bums. They work very hard for their money, and unlike the "full-time employees" show up clean, sober, and on time.

9 posted on 01/16/2005 1:01:24 PM PST by snopercod (Due to the graphic nature of this tagline, viewer discretion is advised.)
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To: islandman78; gubamyster; HiJinx; 1_Inch_Group; 4.1O dana super trac pak; ALIPAC; ...
This poll doesn't have enough participants yet.

"What should the city of Santa Clarita do about the day laborers on San Fernando Road?"

Nothing; they're not bothering anyone - 40% (72 of 178)

Build a hiring hall - 13% (23 of 178)

Enforce the city's anti-solicitation ordinance and fight the inevitable lawsuit - 24% (42 of 178)

Crack down on people who hire them - 23% (41 of 178)

10 posted on 01/16/2005 2:55:45 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: mindspy; mysto; holyscroller; ozarkgirl; Outland; Rick Deckard; ZeitgeistSurfer; Klickitat; ...

poll ping
http://www.the-signal.com/


11 posted on 01/16/2005 3:01:39 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: islandman78

BTTT


12 posted on 01/16/2005 3:12:44 PM PST by spodefly (This message packaged with desiccant. Do not open until ready for use or inspection.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
As of your post 47% of the voters think that the city should enforce anti-solicitation rule or crack down on lawbreaking employers as opposed to 40% who say they're not bothering anyone.

I would say more people support the rule of law than those who don't. But not by much. And not good for a nation founded on the rule of law.

Also the questions are very leading. The day laborers do bother people, they have threatened women and children or make them feel threatened. In my county, they obstruct vehicles attempting to get in legitimate businesses, the vehicles that come into the parking lot to pick them up block legitimate customers attempting to park and they don't purchase things from the businesses there, even though they are using a private parking lot to conduct their likely unlawful transactions with the laborers.

Another hint at the bias, they tag the question about anti-solicitation ordinances with a comment that it would ensure a lawsuit. Most people who care about how tax money is spent would rather the government not be sued for enforcing constitutional laws, so some might not select this one because the question is actually two parts,one good and one bad.
13 posted on 01/16/2005 3:24:57 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

I saw it as an attempt to split the law & order responses into two groups while knowing the majority of responses wouldn't be for building a hiring hall. At first glance it appears that the vote is overwhelmingly for "Leave them Alone" (40%) but combine that with "Build Hiring Hall" (13%) you get 53%. Combining "Enforce the Law" with "Crack Down on Employers" yeilds 47%. The marginal difference is probably more in line with the readers of this rag.

Hold the phone - just checked again and the difference is now an even 50-50. Still not a good statement for the citizens of Santa Clarita's respect for the law. Just send your parking lot pirates over to their neighborhoods!


14 posted on 01/16/2005 3:44:37 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: islandman78

FReep'd


15 posted on 01/16/2005 7:21:38 PM PST by 1_Inch_Group
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To: islandman78
latest at 830pm Reader Meter

What should the city of Santa Clarita do about the day laborers on San Fernando Road?

Current results:

116/337 34% Nothing; they're not bothering anyone

27/337 8% Build a hiring hall

54/337 16% Enforce the city's anti-solicitation ordinance and fight the inevitable lawsuits

140/337 42% Crack down on people who hire them

the tide is turning...

16 posted on 01/16/2005 8:29:32 PM PST by 1_Inch_Group
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