Slaying of 4 may be tied to (Islamic) religious extremism (NJ Christian family had throats slit)

Bergen Record ^ | Sunday, January 16, 2005 | TOM TRONCONE

[TexasCowboy]

That's what I've been saying, gunner.

If this war is going to start, let's get it on!

[nmh]

Seen this one?

Tension between Copts, Muslims also immigrated
The Star-Ledger ^ | Sunday, January 16, 2005 | JEFF DIAMANT and Paul Nelson

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-19/11058567348780.xml

Even the liberal Star Ledger in New Jersey is catching on!

[N. Beaujon]

"The Quran stands very firmly against taking human life," said noted Islamic author Zayn Kassam, chairwoman of the religious studies department of Pomona College in California. "If someone read a verse and used it to justify the killing of four people, I believe that person is unbalanced. ... There are very few Muslims who would support this sort of thing."

What do they think we are all brain dead? "Islam" better get its collective act together or this so-called religion is going to be wiped off the face of the map. I wonder what Milosevic was thinking when he went after his Muslim national separtists, I wonder how misguided we were to have intervended?
(I still dont believe we have gotten the straight story on Bosnia. I wonder what Bob Dole was thinking when he got behind US intervention in this Clinton era charade?)

[AnAmericanMother]

And the governor was too busy appointing his boy-toy as Homeland Security chief to bother with any of this.

If the NJSP and local law enforcement had been keeping closer tabs on the local Islamicists via infiltrators and good police work, these people's lives might have been spared.

If you make it hot for the bad guys they don't have time to pull off things like this.

[Sunshine55]

Could the headless victim be the cousin?

[Theo]

I don't like extremists, zealots, or fanatics of any kind.

That's a pretty extreme position. Do you suffer from self-hatred?

[cyborg]

They've been talking about it on the news ALL AFTERNOON calling it a hate crime. Unreal. Maybe these poor people had to die so folks would wake the hell up about terrorism and persecuting christians in the ME.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

Emerson, Pipes, Katz, inter alia, were ahead of their time.

Unfortunately, there are still people who don't want to admit that these folks were absolutely correct about the existential menace posed to our nation by expanionist Islam, whether it be in the form of Salafi clerics preaching in the Gulf or the imam next door, who's probably on the payroll of some terrorist-aligned organization.

[Alouette]

We should require any Moslem seeking to immigrate here to proclaim that those parts of the Koran allowing for the killing of apostates or unbelievers are not the will of God.

Yeah, well, they do proclaim that to the infidels, then they go ahead and do it anyway.

[SheLion]

Have you heard anything more on the severed head?

Severed Head Found Near Movie Theater
7Online.com, NY - 11 hours ago
(Hazlet, NJ-WABC, January 16, 2005) — A gruesome discovery in New Jersey, as a severed head and body are found near a movie theater in Monmouth County. ...

[nuconvert]

lol.
No. Extreme would be hating them I only dislike them. :~ )

[Salem]

NO! Do you have any online news sources?!

[SheLion]

Emerson, Pipes, Katz, inter alia, were ahead of their time.

They sure had the in-site, didn't they.

[SheLion]

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-19/11058567348780.xml

I have to register to access it. Can you copy and paste it in here for us please?

[Rightly Biased]

Oxymoron

It has to be.

[SheLion]

NO! Do you have any online news sources?!

nmh posted the link in post #482, but when I go there, I have to register.  I hope nmh can copy and paste it in here for us.

[Happy2BMe]

#419

"Radical Islam is on the rampage throughout almost half the globe with Americans, Christians, and Jews, and American Christians and Jews the target of their unrestrained hate."

"The idea that the murder and bloodshed we have seen globally would somehow be avoided in America as we are lulled by PC liberalism in our government, silencing of dissent in radical leftist imposed "tolerance" and "multi-culturalism," and the loud protests of "bigotry" and "persecution" by Islamist apologists and Muslim rights groups with questionable funding and motives, is absolutely ludicrous.

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The Evidence: Chronology of Attacks on the West * * *

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WHY ARE ALL TERRORISTS MUSLIM?

"Unless a man becomes the enemy of evil, he will not even become its slave, but rather its champion. God Himself will not help us to ignore evil but only to defy and to defeat it!" G. K. Chesterton.

In an outrageous attack upon Christian leaders facing the lie of Islam with the Word of God, the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) issued a public rebuke, sharply criticizing "derogatory statements" made by some evangelical leaders concerning Islam. The National Association of Evangelicals represents more than 43,000 congregations in the United States of America. Specifically, the NAE named Franklin Graham, Dr. Jerry Vines, and the Revs. Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson as chief culprits who must learn to temper their speech concerning Islam.

This is shocking! The NAE wants to take the one offensive weapon we Christians have in our arsenal, the Word of God, and replace it with - dialogue? That's right! The truth of God's Word is being replaced with tolerance, appeasement, common ground, reaching across the aisle, pragmatism, and negotiation. "Can't we all just get along?" Of course the answer is, "No! Not when God's Word is the standard."

To be sure, God's Word is confrontational, dividing, judgmental, and absolute, yet it is filled with mercy. Islam, on the other hand, is all of the above, yet it is filled with violence and murder. There is no common ground between these two religions. Islam and Christianity are at war! Neither will tolerate the other.

Unfazed by planes crashing into buildings killing thousands, suicide bombings of countless innocent human beings, mass slaughter of millions of Christians in the Sudan, and violence of unprecedented order, the NAE now wants us to dialogue with the Christ hating false religion of Islam. This spiritually emasculated organization, is espousing that we hide in caves so that we won't be killed by Muslims living out their faith in the streets of our cities. Living out their faith?

The NAE's solution to stop the merciless bloodletting of Islam is to draft guidelines and begin an interfaith dialogue with Islamic leaders. What utter nonsense! Somehow the president of the National Association of Evangelicals, Rev. Ted Haggard, has convinced himself and several others of the good faith of his Islamic counterparts. Haggard is championing the lie of Islam without realizing what it is that he and the NAE are doing.

Ask a simple question, "Why are all terrorists Muslim?" You doubt the premise of the question? Let's just take a look:

1. 1972 Muslim terrorists kidnap Israelite athletes at Olympics in Munich (14 killed).
2. 1972 Muslim terrorists overtake U.S. Embassy in Iran.
3. 1980's Muslim terrorists abduct large numbers of U.S, citizens in Lebanon.
4. 1983 Muslim terrorists bomb Marine barracks in Beirut (250 U.S. soldiers killed).
5. 1985 Muslim terrorists commandeer cruise ship Achille Lauro (Mr. Klinghoeffer, a 70 year old paraplegic, was shot to death and pushed overboard in his wheelchair).
6. 1985 Muslim terrorists seize TWA Flight 847 in Athens (U.S. Navy Seal killed in attempt to rescue passengers).
7. 1988 Muslim terrorists bomb Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland (all souls killed).
8. 1993 Muslim terrorists bomb the World Trade Center for the first time (6 killed).
9. 1994 Muslim terrorists begin the mass slaughter (genocide?) of Christians in the Sudan (more than 2 million slaughtered to date).
10. 1998 Muslim terrorists bomb U.S. Embassies in Kenya, Tanzania, and Nairobi (264 killed and over 4,000 wounded).
11. 2000 Muslim terrorists bomb U.S.S. Cole (14 killed).
12. 2001 Muslim terrorists hijack four airliners and crash them into buildings and the ground killing thousands.
13. 2001 Muslim terrorists call for jihad in Indonesia as Christians are warned to flee the country.
14. 2002 Muslim terrorists kidnap Martin and Gracia Burnham (along with others) in the Phillipines. Martin was killed in the rescue attempt. Gracia made it home.
15. 2002 Muslim terrorists defeated in Afghanistan by strong arm of United States Military.
16. 2002 Muslim terrorists kidnap and ruthlessly slash the throat of journalist Daniel Pearl.
17. 2002 Black Muslim terrorist John Mohammed kills twelve in a cold-blooded 21-day killing spree near Washington, D.C. He was suspected of throwing a grenade into a tent housing 16 soldiers in Gulf War in 1991.
18. 2002 Muslim terrorists bomb a Jewish owned hotel in Kenya (16 killed, 80 injured).
19. 2002 Muslim terrorists bomb a night club in Bali where many westerners were present (182 killed).
20. 2003 Black Muslim terrorist SGT Asan Akbar of the 101st Airborne rolls a grenade into the barracks of sleeping soldiers (kills 2 and wounds 12).
21. 2003 Muslim terrorists convicted of plotting to bomb a Christmas market in Strasbourg, Germany.
22. 2003 Muslim terrorists bomb US-Saudi company and three residential areas where westerners live in Saudi Arabia (at least 50 injured, many died).
23. 2003 Muslim terrorists bomb Jewish and western targets in Casablanca (41 killed).
24. 2003 Muslim terrorists bombard Israel on a daily basis with assaults of unprecedented order.

    What do all of these recorded instances of sheer violence and evil have in common? Islam! Why are all these terrorists Muslim? Their false and murderous religion demands them to be so. There is no escaping the link between terrorism and the Islamic faith. Islam is a lie birthed in the very pit of hell that must be defeated before it destroys everyone who will not bow the knee to Allah and his lying prophet Mohammed.

    Islam must be annihilated, completely. It must be exposed for the lie that it is. Allah is not God and Mohammed is not a prophet of God. Jesus is God, and apart from Him there is no other. Jesus is not tolerant of any other God than Himself, for there is no other God but Him! For the NAE to say anything less is to betray the God of the Holy Scriptures and the 43,000 congregations it represents.

    The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), upon hearing the NAE's appeasing statement said, "We can understand theological differences, but what's important is that the dialogue is one of respect, not demonization." Dialogue? Sure, Rev. Haggard, you won the accolades of Islam, but you are suffering under the condemnation of heaven. There is nothing Islam would rather do than to dialogue with you while it continues its murderous onslaught. The Word of God demonizes Islam, not Franklin Graham or any of the others.

    For the NAE to take its cues from CAIR, a front organization for Islamic terrorism, is absurd. CAIR is the organization that came up with the politically correct idea that America should no longer be considered a "Judeo-Christian" nation. Why? Because it is offensive to Muslims living in America. Please! CAIR is that "gentle" organization that coined the endearing term "Islamophobia," and is presently suing American Airlines for wrongfully profiling "middle eastern" looking men.

    Wrongfully profiling? One doesn't have to look too long at the statistics to realize that 98.7% of all hijackings from 1970 to this day were done by "middle eastern" looking men who were all (100% of them) Muslim terrorists. CAIR says it's just not fair to be demonized by the Word of God. Too bad! Unfortunately the NAE wants to jump on that "politically correct" ship that is going to sink into eternal damnation.

    We have three choices in dealing with Islam. We will either be killed by those holding to its murderous tenets, kill them (like we are doing in Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.), or convert them to Christ. Which one do you choose?

    Flip Benham

     

 

[Happy2BMe]

#490

??

[SheLion]

There is no converting them to Christ. They can't convert us and we cannot convert them.

What's left?

[SheLion]

nmh posted the link in post #482, but when I go there, I have to register. I hope nmh can copy and paste it in here for us.