Slaying of 4 may be tied to (Islamic) religious extremism (NJ Christian family had throats slit)

The devil is about his business.

What's going on in America?

They rejoiced on 9/11 in Patterson NJ. I have a friend who lives near there. This is not new.

The internet chat room angle, eh? How would the jihadi's get the Armanious family's name and address? Unless he was foolish enough to give it out that is.

...Are you really that naive??

Not all Muslims are terrorists

Not all Jews attend synagougue on Rosh Hashannah either.

ML/NJ

yep....

...snowing lightly and about 28 here...how are ya'll?

my girls said cosmopolitan Orange County was quite chilly..lol

He also pointed to a passage in the Muslim holy book, the Quran, that details how enemies should be killed - bound and their throats slit

Let's see, these people get into an internet argument with some Islamic a-holes, and suddenly turn up with their throats slit.

I am rapidly concluding that Islam is a gutter religion of human sewer-rats.

If you are Islamic, even a "peaceful" one, you are a mortal enemy of mine.

saved

why are they here?

have lost all common sense?

"The Quran stands very firmly against taking human life," said noted Islamic author Zayn Kassam

The only problem is that they don't consider non-Islamics to be humans.

bttt

Fatwa Question Details
Name Muslim - Title
Selling Food to the US Troops Fighting in Iraq
Question
Dear Sheikh, As-Salamu `alaykum. I am an employee in one of the hotels that serve food to the American troops. Is it lawful to sell food to the Americans? In other words, would I go on in my work or leave it? May Allah reward you.
Date
31/Mar/2003
Mufti
Group of Muftis
Answer
Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear brother in Islam, we would like to thank you for the great confidence you place in us, and we implore Allah Almighty to help us serve His cause and render our work for His Sake.

First of all, it is to be stated that the relationship between Muslims and non-Muslims is to be based on kindness and good treatment. But if the non-Muslims fight against Muslims anywhere, it is incumbent upon Muslims not to help them in any way or provide them with food. He who does so is sinful.

In response to the question you posed, Dr. Yusuf Qasim, Professor of Islamic Shari’ah at the Faculty of Law, Cairo University, states:
"It is a general ruling that it is forbidden to provide the enemy with anything, even food, as this is a form of assisting the enemy, which is forbidden. There are many sources of religious evidence for this. It is sufficient in this regard to cite Allah’s saying: "Allah forbiddeth you not those who warred not against you on account of religion and drove you not out from your homes, that ye should show them kindness and deal justly with them. Lo! Allah loveth the just dealers. Allah forbiddeth you only those who warred against you on account of religion and have driven you out from your homes and helped to drive you out, that ye make friends of them. Whosoever makes friends of them (All) such are wrong doers." (Al-Mumtahanah: 8-9)
According to the first verse, Allah makes it lawful that we treat non-Muslims kindly and justly as long as they are at peace with Muslims. However, when they are at war with Muslims, attacking Muslim lands and homes, it is forbidden for any Muslim to support them in any way. The second verse applies to what our enemies do now. Hence, I have no alternative but to say to the questioner that it is completely forbidden to help the Americans at any rate.
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) launched an economic war against the polytheists of Makkah, and during the Battle of Badr he stopped up all the wells in the place so that the enemy would have nothing to drink. This example shows us that preventing provisions from reaching the enemy is lawful; and he who provides them with anything would be sinful.
It has become definitely clear that the US has launched war against Iraq with the purpose of dominating the whole region and its resources. It is also obvious that this war is not legitimate; and hence, it is a sin to help the Americans in any way during that war.
As for selling to and buying from the Americans, generally, this is lawful in itself; but in the current circumstances, it must be prevented. This is because it is a kind of providing the enemy with help; and hence, I say that this is forbidden.
As for one who works in a restaurant, company, or a hotel that serves food to the aggressors and he has no option because he needs that work and cannot find another job, he is like the person who does something under force. So, he can only continue his work provided that he does his best to find another job, and at the same time keeps drawing the attention of the owner of the place he works in to the unlawfulness of providing the enemy with such services. In this case, the sin will be upon the owner if he does not respond.
Concerning the international agreements (held between some Arab countries and the US) to the effect that the former provide the American troops with food and assistance, laws give the parties to such agreements the right to cancel them if said agreements would lead to helping these troops commit aggression. Such countries’ continuing to abide by the terms of these agreements is a grave sin that Allah will punish them for."
Moreover, Dr. Anwar Dabbour, Professor of Shari`ah, Faculty of Law at Cairo University, adds:
"It is a general ruling that anything that may help the American troops remain in Muslim territories is forbidden. This includes providing them with food, medicine, and all other logistic needs. Whoever provides them with any of these needs is committing a sin. Such troops are there to fight against the Muslims, destroy their lands, and annihilate them. How would a Muslim provide them with help after all this? As for the one who works in a restaurant or hotel that provides them services, he is committing a sin and should give up that work and search for another job.
Regarding the international agreements (that require some Arab states to help the American troops), they are no longer binding upon such Arab states, for the presence of such troops has become illegitimate and turned into an aggressive attack against the Muslims. Hence, these Arab states can declare cancellation of these agreements."
Finally, the eminent Muslim scholar, Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, states:
"There is no doubt that Muslims are required to defend their religion and countries with all possible means of jihad, whether by fighting against the enemy with arms, expressing hatred and opposition to them by tongue or heart, or by boycotting them. This is to say, Muslims should do whatever they can in order to weaken their enemy. It is not lawful for any Muslim at any rate to support or protect the enemies of his religion or country, be those enemies Jews, pagans, et cetera.
Muslims must not be loyal to disbelievers, as the righteous do not show loyalty to the evil-doers; doing so would be a sign of one’s weak faith, or, Allah forbid it, a sign of apostasy. If a Muslim cannot fight against the enemies in the battlefield, the least he can do is to boycott them and not to benefit them economically, for every penny the enemies profit from us helps them have weapons to use in fighting against the Muslims. That is why the Jews used to collect donations in America and European countries saying, “Pay a penny to kill an Arab.” Hence, when a Muslim helps in increasing the profits of the polytheists or disbelievers in any way, he would be helping them kill other Muslims, which is a grave sin. Allah says: "Whoso slayeth a believer of set purpose, his reward is Hell for ever. Allah is wroth against him and He hath cursed him and prepared for him an awful doom"(An-Nisa': 93); and "…whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if be had killed all mankind…" (Al-Ma'idah: 32)
Hence, it is incumbent upon Muslims not to help the enemies of Islam at any rate. Whatever good will those enemies may show, they are liars. Allah says: "He among you who will turn to them for patronage is one of them” (Al-Ma'idah :51); "Thou wilt find the most vehement of mankind in hostility to those who believe, (to be) the Jews and the idolaters…"(Al-Ma'dah :82); and "…the wrong doers, some of them are friends of others…" (Al-Jathiyah: 19)
We should take into account what these verses tell us. Muslims should express their loyalty to their nation and religion; this is the least thing they can do. Besides, fighting is not only by using arms against the enemies; it may also be by boycotting them. [This is for Muslims outside the offending countries.] For example, the boycott the polytheists of Makkah imposed on the Prophet and his clan was a kind of economic war. They boycotted the Prophet’s whole clan, as well as the Muslims who believed in him. They made a covenant to the effect that it was forbidden for anyone of them to hold any contact with that clan, sell to them, buy from them, or even enter into marriage relations with them.
Hence, it is necessary to launch an economic war against the enemies of Islam; Muslims are to boycott them; and whoever does not do so would betray Allah, His Messenger, and all Muslims."

Allah Almighty knows best.

Let me get this straight this family throats were cut they urge debate with Muslums

That tell me alot they can't stand the truth that Islam is War religion not religion of peace

If Christians had slit the throats of Muslims

If the Muslims keep it up, there might be.

I'm trying to figure out if it's winter or fall *lol* It was a bit chilly in the city last night. My sister and I went to see the Alexander Hamilton exhibit. It was pretty good.

"Not all Jews attend synagougue on Rosh Hashannah either."

The question is why they don't attend...are they lazy...or don't think it is important?

This is the gist of my question...why is it that many Muslims do not actively participate in terrorism themselves, yet the vast majority also do not speak out against those who do?

They have made such a mess of the Mid-East that they cannot find work there. They come here for jobs. Once here, they want to make it more like home, intolerance and all.

I realize that not all moslems are like this, but the minority that are must be confronted.

...Are you really that naive??

But how do you think this family was tracked through a chat room (if indeed that was what happened)? Are you saying the sight was hacked?

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth." --Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998

They'll have to kill me first.

Then they can step between the empty ammunition cannisters, take the rifle with the overheated barrel out of my hands, and convert my corpse.