Posted on 01/15/2005 2:32:03 PM PST by AVNevis
Per MSNBC
"Are you Canadian...eh?"
You crack me up...and not in the good way...
And what are the UN "peacekeepers" getting, who abuse children, raping little 12-year old girls?
If a US soldier puts panties on the head of a terrorist, he gets jail term, when UN abuses innocent children -- I just heard on Fox, there are at least 150 cases and most likely more, because the girld don't dare to come forward, for fear of retaliation -- NOTHING happens.
"FYI: Graner and his crew have the blood of the contractors whose burnt bodies hung from that green bridge plus on their hands."
Don't beat around the bush...spit it out...
Except that the folks he was abusing were arrested for street crimes, robbery and the like. Not everyone in prison in Iraq is there for attacks against U.S. forces you know.
http://www.agonist.org/annex/taguba.htm
The following is the text of the Taguba report with only the names of some witnesses removed for the sake of privacy.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4894001/
Executive summary of Article 15-6 investigation of the 800th
Military Police Brigade by Maj. Gen. Antonio M. TagubaNBC News
It's easy. I assume no more good will or fairness out of the media than I would a pack of starving wolves. It as natural for the media to distort as it is for hungry animals to kill. I'm beyond wanting them to be fair. It won't happen. Now, all I care about is for us to stop feeding them meat like Abu Ghraib, in hopes of starving them out.
Even today, the 'media' drags up Abu Ghraib at the drop of a hat. ... This story has legs for one reason -- the antiwar left wants to discredit the Iraq War.
This is all true. They don't play fair.
To blame that all on Graner, dispicable though he may be, is shortsighted and lack basic fairness.
To blame all of what? Graner broke the law, and is being punished. You can ascribe all kinds of other injustices to his particular case, but the fact of the matter is that he did wrong, and will face military justice.
Yawn....
It is spelled dude..not dood.
That this individual has a brain, is cultured, has traveled extensively .... and on and on.
Explains that he's not an idiot like .... ?
If not regular civilian criminals, then I guess we have been releasing terrorists from Abu Ghraib by the hundreds for some time now.
More than 600 released from Abu Ghraib prison
May 29, 2004
ABU GHRAIB PRISON, Iraq – Raising their voices in slow, melodic chants of "God is Great," hundreds of Iraqis took over a highway in front of Abu Ghraib prison yesterday to greet buses carrying out 623 men and one woman after months of detention.
Nearly 300 Iraqis released from Abu Ghraib prison May 15, 2004
ABU GHRAIB, Iraq -- After months at Abu Ghraib prison, Hussein Sami did not complain of physical abuse upon his release. But Sami -- among 293 detainees freed Friday -- said guards shouted at and insulted inmates, and the prison was unsafe because insurgents target it with mortar rounds.
The release came a day after a surprise visit by U.S. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, who recommended decreasing the prisoner population.
More prisoners released from Abu Ghraib - May 28, 2004
US forces in Iraq have released more detainees from the Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad. Buses carrying the prisoners drove out of the complex as thousands of people gathered outside hoping for news of detained relatives. An American spokeswoman says up to 600 people were due to be freed. Last week, more than 400 people were released from Abu Ghraib, which has been at the centre of a scandal over the abuse of inmates.
There are plenty other instances. A google search will reveal all others.
Shall I point out Article 64 of the 4th Geneva Convention?
Art. 64. The penal laws of the occupied territory shall remain in force ...And you know what? Our rights are not given to us by our Constitution. These rights exists in all men in all countries by virtue of their being human beings. All our Constitution does is tell the federal government that they may not cross the line and violate any of the natuaral God-given rights listed in the Amendments. We would have those rights with or without the Constitution. The Iraqis have those rights as well. The whole point of our being in their country is to help them establish a government that is committed to maintaining those rights among the Iraqi people just as our government is constituted to not infringe on our rights.
I did not beat around the bush, I posted plainly.
You have access to the internet, use it wisely.
"The whole point of our being in their country is to help them establish a government that is committed to maintaining those rights among the Iraqi people just as our government is constituted to not infringe on our rights."
Don't be silly. Helping them establish a government that is committed to maintaining rights among the Iraqi people is not worth the death of a single American, let alone a thousand.
Grow up and learn a little bit about the real world if you want to be taken seriously.
Hmm.....ok...will look at the Taguba report and form my own conclusions....but..but...when the Geneva Convention is imposed on non-traditional combantants...the rules need to change...
:A civilian tech rep? Gee, what a shock (not)."
Ever here of Balad??....and did you say you were a squid on a boat? As a tech rep with prior military experience...my position requires me to "go where the troops go"...next time you see a American civilian in Iraq...ask him why he is there when he doesn't have to be...I'm done talking with you...good luck!
Some, now mind you I did say some, are there for the MONEY.
"You have access to the internet, use it wisely."
Some of us should take our own advice...
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