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To: BJungNan

There was a time when the ACLU did good work, they represented both sides of an issue which related to citizen's rights. Howevert that all changed, I am willing to bet that a change in leadership with-in the ACLU in the past 10 years or so has brought about this SECULAR position on the ACLU organization. maybe someone should look into this apparent Change in leadership to see WHO basicly had the POWER to move the Organization to the SECULAR/LEFT.


2 posted on 01/15/2005 12:38:16 PM PST by GoldenOrchid
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To: GoldenOrchid

Just when did the ACLU do good work? They were founded by members of the American Humanist movement, I believe in the 30's, and the Humanist were mostly Marxists...where was the "good" part?


17 posted on 01/15/2005 2:01:46 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America is happening)
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To: GoldenOrchid
There was a time when the ACLU did good work, they represented both sides of an issue which related to citizen's rights. Howevert that all changed, I am willing to bet that a change in leadership with-in the ACLU in the past 10 years or so has brought about this SECULAR position on the ACLU organization. maybe someone should look into this apparent Change in leadership to see WHO basicly had the POWER to move the Organization to the SECULAR/LEFT.

The ACLU was formed to defend Communists in Hollywood from Sen. McCarthy's investigations of their treason. It has ALWAYS been, not just leftist/secularist, but positively Marxist in outlook. The have never defended religious freedom, or the right to bear arms, or free speech for that matter, if was spoken against their agenda.

So, when, exactly, was the time when they did "good work"?

26 posted on 01/15/2005 2:44:11 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (The Compassionate Troll)
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To: GoldenOrchid

The ACLU has been taken over by the Fascist homosexual agenda. The gays are the ones who are attacking religion, especially christianity. They can't go after Jews after what happened the first time. There's been too many books and movies made about that.


39 posted on 01/15/2005 7:53:49 PM PST by virgil
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To: GoldenOrchid

Nah. They've always been what they are. The Scopes monkey trial was their first big hype job, and it set the playbook for their current methodology. They went looking for a lawsuit, and finally found a teacher who agreed to be the test case. They had to nag the state to get them to press charges (the state DID NOT want to press charges), and then acted like a bunch of religious bigots were stifling freedom of speech.


51 posted on 01/15/2005 10:08:36 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are ready to do violence on our behalf)
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To: GoldenOrchid

I am willing to bet that a change in leadership with-in the ACLU in the past 10 years or so has brought about this SECULAR position on the ACLU organization.


You'd lose that bet. The ACLU was formed in New York in the 1920's and was Communist from the get go. They have been so successful that it is no longer necessary to hide it.


62 posted on 01/16/2005 6:21:04 PM PST by loboinok (GUN CONTROL IS HITTING WHAT YOU AIM AT.)
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To: GoldenOrchid; BJungNan; Jay777

The ACLU have always been oriented towards communism, but in order to gain the trust {and financial backing) of Americans, they've pretended to be something other than what they really are. Apparently they feel secure enough now to drop the pretenses.

ACLU= American Communist Losers Union


68 posted on 01/17/2005 2:43:03 AM PST by Lindykim
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You can join the fight against the ACLU and their ilk by becoming involved with and supporting the following organizations:

Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) - http://www.alliancedefensefund.org

Thomas More Law Center (TMLC) - http://www.thomasmore.org

American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) - http://www.aclj.org

The Rutherford Institute - http://www.rutherford.org/

Stop the ACLU Coalition - http://www.stoptheaclu.org


Here are a few examples of how two of those organizations are fighting back:

ADF Contacts Over 3,600 School Districts Over Attempts To Censor Christmas

ADF: 700 lawyers ready to fight ACLU lawsuits

ADF: Pentagons' Warning About Boyscouts Is Absurd

Thomas More Law Center: Town of Palm Beach Pays $50,000 In Attorney Fees Apologizes To Women In Nativity Lawsuit


Additional information:

The ACLU must be destroyed: Joseph Farah supports Boy Scouts, urges Americans to fight back

Citizens mobilized to stop ACLU (seeks to consign group to 'ash heap of history')

ACLU fulfilling communist agenda

Revealing FACTS on the ACLU from its own writings

See how YOUR Senator or Representative ranks with the ACLU

This yahoo group just started on December 3, 2004 and is looking for new members

Anti-ACLU Page


Let me know if you would like to join my ACLU ping list


78 posted on 01/18/2005 5:41:10 AM PST by Jay777 (Never met a wise man, if so it's a woman. Kurt Cobain)
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