Suddenly, George Bush is looking better

Toronto Sun ^ | January 15, 2005 | Michael Coren

[tortoise]

But so far, all the records --- all the extremely high body-counts --- are held by atheists/socialists.

They are all men too. Coincidence? I think not.

[I_dmc]

Interesting. Another poster awhile ago had stated they found research that seemed to indicate otherwise. It does seem the potential to spur irrational action on the part of male soldiers, in reaction to the presence of female soldiers in theater would be high.

[BackInBlack]

"Why do you have to find a black church?"

Because
(a) There are differences in how certain cultures TEND to approach religion, and the way I was raised makes me more comfortable there. Big deal.
(b) I live on the South Side of Chicago and would have to drive forever to reach a non-black church.
(c) No matter how far I drove in this city, I probably wouldn't find a majority Republican church.
(c) Politics isn't everything. It's no one's place but mine to determine what factors are most important in a church for me.

[BackInBlack]

"Being a Christian is not simply believing in Christ. Demons believe in Him as well. That's not to suggest there are no democrats that are not Christians, just that belief alone is not salvation."

I see a difference between "believing that" and "believing in." I mean "believing in" to refer to a faith, a trust, a love.

[BackInBlack]

See my post #83, especially the end.

[highlander_UW]

I see a difference between "believing that" and "believing in." I mean "believing in" to refer to a faith, a trust, a love.

Exactly. And in honesty, it's not strictly a party thing, there are false Christians in all realms.

21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven {will enter.} 22 "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' 23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.' Matthew 7:21-23

Sadly, the democrat party in particular has embraced as central tenants many practices of "lawlessness".

[UCANSEE2]

Women in the military are not held to the same physical standards as the men.

This is wrong. This endangers everyone around them.
Women can meet the same physical standards, if we set the bar the same, as they are humans with the same capability as men.

Women should not, and ARE NOT, forced into military service.

There are likely a dozen reasons that WOMEN should not serve in the military, on the front line, in this war.

The enemy will take advantage of a soldier being female.

They already did with a certain CPL (IIRC) and our Chief and every officer downline took instant action to remove the 'fuse' from that bomb.

A female fighting on the front line must be physically as capable as all the other soldiers, and she must realize that if the enemy tries to use torture/rape , then she must fight against it like a soldier, and spit in the face of the enemy. Let them know you will not let your body and sex be used to compromise the efforts of your fellow soldiers or your country. Remember the very strong, very faithful(I think) Italian PRISONER. The terrorists offered him a blindfold for his beheading, and he refused, yelling out, "NOW WATCH HOW AN ITALIAN DIES."

He faced his greatest fear, and held fast to his patriotism, taking away the power that the terrorists were trying to gain by showing the world Italians were weak cowards and deserved to die.

The male soldiers would, likewise, have to have similar responses to the females.

This is where it gets sticky. The male soldier cannot give special consideration to the female while in battle.
But they do. It would take quite a while to get all the males to lose that barest trace of chivalry our society still has.

And the MEDIA! They love to exploit a female being captured or killed. Which just means the terrorists know that if they drag a body through the streets, or rape a female prisoner, or slit a woman's throat , the MSM will be there to ensure NO ONE MISSES THE SHOW.

It took hell and highwater to feed the MSM goosechase stories about one female soldier. It was a military matter and nobody else's business.

The MSM gripes about how the United States supported OBL, which was in support of their fight against the Russians, but when they publicize his terror performances , they are supporting him as surely as they gave the Democratic candidates FREE BACKING and NO QUESTIONS.

The MSM is likely the biggest reason women should not be on the front line.

If a woman qualifies, and has her head on straight, and wants on the front line, I say, GIVE THE DAMN LADY A GUN!

I don't think the enemy realizes what a pissed off female, on her period, with a loaded gun, can do.

[UCANSEE2]

You try finding a black church that isn't overwhelmingly Democrat."

First, while that may have been the case, I think things are changing.

I think that assuming THAT THOUGHT is what helps keep it that way.

Most black people that go to church, are much more enthusiastic about their faith, than say, white people. It was the voters with moral values and religious faith that supported and voted for President Bush.

Ergo it likely Black churches are turning predominately to the political right. What I have found is that a black person does not like a white person who is two-faced. I feel sure that many blacks have looked into the President's eyes, and heart, and seen his actions, and know where his spirit lays.

[k2blader]

These comments by President Bush did encourage me a bit.

[Capriole]

There are differences in how certain cultures TEND to approach religion, and the way I was raised makes me more comfortable there. Big deal.

I understand completely. It was very difficult for me to leave the formal Episcopal Church in which I was raised, with its beautiful old traditions, and join a heavily Southern- and black-influenced church in which people clapped and raised their hands to pray and sang out, "Yes, Jesus!" in the middle of the service. It was a little odd at first because we form ideas about such things in early childhood. But this is home, now.

(b) I live on the South Side of Chicago and would have to drive forever to reach a non-black church. (c) No matter how far I drove in this city, I probably wouldn't find a majority Republican church.

I used to live in Chicago and I agree you'd have to drive most of the way to Mars to find a nondenominational mixed-race gospel-preaching conservative church.

(c) Politics isn't everything.

Agreed--but it's uncomfortable if you are being harangued about politics from the pulpit every Sunday. That happens in some churches.

It's no one's place but mine to determine what factors are most important in a church for me.

Absolutely true. It's between you and God. We are only offering a hand of friendship toward a brother in Christ. And much of what was said about being in the wrong church applies more seriously to mainstream white-oriented Christian churches. It is the mainstream churches like the Episcopalians, the Methodists, and the Presbyterians who are leading the way with this gay marriage and lesbian preacher nonsense in which the church is really a medium for political and social action. Even a lot of liberal black churches still uphold family values.

[RipSawyer]

"What I have found is that a black person does not like a white person who is two-faced."

Interesting comment, how do you suppose they feel about a black person who is two-faced?

[UCANSEE2]

how do you suppose they feel about a black person who is two-faced?

No different. But they might act different.

It think it possible that many black people think most white people ( I love the irony of those words.) are two-faced. That they give lip service to equal rights, equal opportunity, but sure don't want one living next door.

President Bush has shown that his choice for administrative staff is done on the basis of experience and talent. Sex,color, and creed are only fodder for the media, and not something President Bush even thinks about.

President Bush has Condoleesa Rice on his staff because of one thing. SHE IS DAMN GOOD AT HER JOB!

Condoleesa Rice for President 2008!

[BackInBlack]

See, the difference between what you're saying and what I'm saying is that I actually know what I'm talking about because I attend a black church in Chicago. How are you going to tell me that black churches in my city are not predominantly Democratic? I don't see how recognizing that obvious fact helps "keep it that way." It's a fact that 88% of blacks voted for Kerry. And the ones that didn't tend not to live in big cities.

[Gunrunner2]

Hmmm. . .I wonder what research. I conducted my own (as part of the Clinton admin's effort to make POW rape a female AND male thing, therefore making females (and the possibility of rape) no big thing. Males were NOT raped in Gulf War I (except for the one Brit pilot. . .whom I met at RAF Bentley Priory in the UK).

Males do act "irrationally" to the presence of females in danger. It is a fact and it is a negative factor we need not introduce in combat situations. Heck, when not engaged in combat the presence of females is problematic when deployed and under stress. . .from commanders having to plan logistics support for "feminine hygiene" products, to discipline for soldiers assuming duties and responsibilities for female military in the hope that they might receive her affections, then you introduce trying to protect her from danger and the potential use of females as a weapon against them by the enemy.

Cheers.

[Gunrunner2]

"This is where it gets sticky. The male soldier cannot give special consideration to the female while in battle.
But they do. It would take quite a while to get all the males to lose that barest trace of chivalry our society still has. "

Conflicting signals. You are required to be sensitive to females in your unit, be careful what you say and avoid any off-color jokes as they may offend. . . but at the flick of an emotional switch, turn off all that sensitivity if captured and be detached from her rape and abuse. Can't say "F*UCK" around her in the unit, but in wartime the most vile abuse heaped upon her should not affect you in anyway.

What?

"And the MEDIA! They love to exploit a female being captured or killed."

They are in love with the idea of a female Audie Murphy.

Keep women out of combat.

[Ashamed Canadian]

The Muslim fanatics terrorist we are battling now are highly religious and spend a whole lot more time expressing their devotion then we do.

Given the evidence stacking against Islam these days, I'd hardly call it a religion in the same vein as Christianity and Judaism, I see your point, but I don't think it applies to Islam - Islam is something different and whacked out altogether - in essence, it's an anomoly to what the author is stating - remember - this author is rooted in the sane world. There are always exceptions to the rule, but Bin Laden is an entirely different animal than Stalin, Hitler et al. Also, I do think that he is a megalomaniac who sees himself as a diety on his own and can't get enough of his own press.