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Ex-Drug Agent Found Convicted of Perjury [Tulia, TX]
AP ^ | Jan 14 2005

Posted on 01/14/2005 12:57:25 PM PST by george wythe

The lone undercover agent in a sting that sent dozens of black people to prison on bogus drug charges was convicted Friday of one of two perjury counts.

Tom Coleman was acquitted of testifying falsely in a 2003 hearing that as a sheriff's deputy he never stole gas from county pumps, but he was found guilty of saying that he didn't learn about the theft charge against him until August 1998.

Jurors were to begin hearing evidence in the penalty phase of the trial later Friday. The perjury charge carries a maximum 10-year sentence and $10,000 fine.

Coleman arrested 46 people, most of them black, in the small, mostly white farming community of Tulia. He worked alone and used no audio or video surveillance, and no drugs were ever found, but 38 defendants were convicted or reached plea deals

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To: libertyman

I too smoked MJ ...daily (chronic) for about 10 years.

I did not mean to infer that you meant anything other than the fact that I was making the statement that folks who smoke weed off and on all day for most of their lives have eneded up stymied in my view. They seem stuck where they started and watch life and all the good stuff roll by them.

There are exceptions to this and I'm sure someone will come along and point that out to me.

I think weed enhances delusiuonal perceptions of the reality of how one's life is going. The ability to rationalize procrastination or lack of effort is enhanced for starters.

Again, this applies to folks who smoke a lot and usually those who started young and stuck with it.

Btw....you seem very defensive.

I agree that weed is not physically addictive. It is somewhat psychologically addictive or habitually attractive. I have seen folks go thru a lot of frenzied effort (more than they would normally expend on anything) to get more herb when they are running low. Nothing like a tweaker or crackhead but they wanted to find some herb pretty bad nonetheless.

Nicotine is addictive. It does not create the psychological problems inherent in drug abuse. It is very hard to quit...and it can and probably will....kill the user if they never stop.

However, comparative analysis between marijuana and nicotine does not detract from my observation that anything more than quite casual marijauana use inhibits life.


61 posted on 01/15/2005 9:01:35 AM PST by wardaddy (Quisiera ser un pez para tocar mi nariz en tu pecera)
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To: Javelina
I tried to stand by him at first because I think police officers too often get accused wrongly of these things. But there is no doubt anymore that he lied and ruined many many innocent lives.

Yet there are those who continue to claim otherwise, because it serves their agenda to do so.

62 posted on 01/15/2005 10:04:50 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Lazamataz
Dealing drugs is not capitalism, it is feeding off of the addiction of another. It is vulturism. It is absolutely morally bereft.

Does that apply to selling the addictive drugs alcohol and tobacco?

63 posted on 01/15/2005 10:06:55 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: libertyman

Thank you. The five principles seem to outline a sensible way of handling mind altering substances within a safe environment. The question arises as to what is the need that drives people to alter their consciousness whether with MJ or alcohol? Does one think great thoughts with MJ?
I know I do with scotch.


64 posted on 01/15/2005 10:07:56 AM PST by Shisan (Dyspaerunia is better than no paerunia at all.)
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To: wardaddy

Sorry if I sounded defensive, I never intended to be angry or anything like that. I reckon my having to use CAPS rather than italics when trying to make a point seemed like I was shouting. My prob is that I dunno how to do HTML of whatever it's called...I wish I could italicize, use bold letters, & add graphics to some of my posts like everyone else can, but I'm "none too swuft" when it comes to cmptrs. Sorry!


65 posted on 01/15/2005 10:10:10 AM PST by libertyman (Dims = tax & SPEND; GOP = borrow & SPEND)
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To: libertyman
but I'm "none too swuft" when it comes to cmptrs.

You and me both...I scored a 3 on that Nerd Test the other day.

66 posted on 01/15/2005 10:14:48 AM PST by wardaddy (Quisiera ser un pez para tocar mi nariz en tu pecera)
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To: libertyman
I wish I could italicize, use bold letters,

Type like <i>this</i> to italicize and like <b>this</b> for bold.

67 posted on 01/15/2005 10:17:06 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Shisan

I don't drink, due to alcohol's extremely bitter taste. I can't tell one type of alcohol from another, to tell u the truth. It makes folks turn violent, & that just isn't my style.

On the other hand, before I became disabled (I'm legally blind), I'd luv to kick back after getting home from work & smoke about half a joint while watching the evening news or listening to some mellow music. Ahhhhhh......what a smoooooooth way to relax!


68 posted on 01/15/2005 10:18:07 AM PST by libertyman (Dims = tax & SPEND; GOP = borrow & SPEND)
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To: libertyman

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69 posted on 01/15/2005 10:18:50 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights

I've tried that before, but I guess I didn't do it perfect, because all I got were those addnt'l characters w/o the changes I wanted. Where do I go to learn this stuff?


70 posted on 01/15/2005 10:20:28 AM PST by libertyman (Dims = tax & SPEND; GOP = borrow & SPEND)
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To: Shisan; libertyman
Does one think great thoughts with MJ? I know I do with scotch.

I'm staunch middle aged now...(47) and have all sorts of spinal arthritis and had open heart surgery a year ago so I have become familiar with narcotics again....something I had little familiarity with since I used them on occasion recreationally as a kid.

I understand how Rush must have felt although he appears to have taken much much larger doses. Narcotics (in mild doses for me) work great when I need them and I can carry out all functions quite well and my mind...a bit more relaxed actually feels more fluid and cogent than otherwise. I realize this may be paradoxical or delusional but it sure feels that way.

When I take them...it's normally up to 10mg of hydrododone at night or maybe half that during the day. Or perhaps one to two Percocets over the course of the day. They do not wipe me out and I function fine and jog and feel mood improvement because of the release of pain and the drug itself. Now if I take Soma as well (carisprodal) then I am less alert and functional to be sure.

It's just odd. I realize these are almost minimal doses and I only take them for 2-6 days at a time but the effects at age 47 are much different than say smoking opium tar at age 17.

Prior to open heart surgery, the morphine-scopalamine cocktail was a Godsend anxiety wise. Now...as for weed...my life is too busy...and I have never enjoyed being drunk.....even a little tipsy is not good for sex past 35 in my experience as a man and I would much rather knock boots than drink. Drink on the other hand, is sort of good for women in that regard.

Just musing....best drug ever made kids.....Quaaludes...no question. Just dont drive and put your daughters in chastity belts.

71 posted on 01/15/2005 10:26:48 AM PST by wardaddy (Quisiera ser un pez para tocar mi nariz en tu pecera)
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To: wardaddy

I don't understand much about narcorics, & I never thought marijuana was in that category. I take phenobarbitol & dilantin 'buz I have epilepsy, but that's as close to the hard stuff that I get.

As far as thinking great thoughts are concerned, yeah, it happens. My friends & I laugh a lot, & the LAST thing on our minds are getting violent & arguing.


72 posted on 01/15/2005 10:32:18 AM PST by libertyman (Dims = tax & SPEND; GOP = borrow & SPEND)
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To: libertyman

Oh...no...I do not think of weed like opiates. Opiates are much stronger and can kill you.

Weed is to me less harmful than alcohol. It's effects are more insidious if abused....subtle.


73 posted on 01/15/2005 10:53:33 AM PST by wardaddy (Quisiera ser un pez para tocar mi nariz en tu pecera)
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To: wardaddy

"Just dont drive and put your daughters in chastity belts."
????
I must be slow on the up-take.
Quaaludes also sold as Sopor was a very bad drug. A real killer. Puts your mind in another space (and your body at 6 feet).


74 posted on 01/15/2005 10:57:34 AM PST by Shisan (Dyspaerunia is better than no paerunia at all.)
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To: wardaddy

The only time I've tried opiates was when I was in the hospital for gall bladder surgery back in the late '80s. I think Demerol was what I was given--a shot on ea side of my rear end. OUCH!!!

I eventually developed cramps on both butt cheeks that seemed like they would never go away, lol....the great thing about it was how much I looked forward to 10 PM every night: after getting the shot, I felt like I was levitating about 2 feet above the bed, & I could see the sheets hanging down from me on either side & noticed they diddn't even reach the side of the bed! My parents walked into the room & I automatically busted out laughing the moment I saw them...it still cracks me up just thinkin about it, & that was pert near 20 yrs ago!


75 posted on 01/15/2005 11:11:43 AM PST by libertyman (Dims = tax & SPEND; GOP = borrow & SPEND)
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To: Shisan

My remembrances with Methaqualone...sold as Oquaalude, Parest, and Sopor were quite dofferent than you describe.

More like a lot of alcohol wih no side effects.

Bigtime inhibtion looseners.

That was over a quarter century ago, my perception today would be different I imagine.

Yes...like any hard drug...they could be quite dangerous. That's a given.


76 posted on 01/15/2005 11:25:03 AM PST by wardaddy (Quisiera ser un pez para tocar mi nariz en tu pecera)
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To: Know your rights

And type like this, "Does that apply to selling the addictive drugs alcohol and tobacco?" when you have nothing to add to the thread and would rather change the subject to anything but marijuana.


77 posted on 01/15/2005 12:44:11 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

What percent of your income comes from the WOD?


78 posted on 01/15/2005 12:51:29 PM PST by Ed_in_NJ (Who killed Suzanne Coleman?)
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To: robertpaulsen
"Well, $6 million divided 46 ways ... I hope it's over. (Then again, $6 million buys a lot of drugs.)"

If there was nothing to the claim that this Coleman guy set people up, then why were people awarded this 6 million dollars?

I cant' believe you take up for this guy. I don't doubt he was setting up many who were dealing, but dishonest creeps like this are also going to get innocent people sometimes. And you think it's such a big deal that so many pled guilty? People plead guilty all the time to things the claim they didn't do. Most of them are lying, but not always. Their lawyers were probably trying to get all of them to plead, telling them that how juries would believe the white guy with a badge over them, and that if convicted by the jury they could do a whole lot more time than if they just took the plea offer. Most people are afraid of going to trial on criminal cases, especially if they are facing potentially long sentences. It's a roll of the dice some people just won't take whether they did what they were accused of doing or not, especially if their offer is probation or some short prison stint and if the case goes to trial and the jury believes the guy with the badge they could spend a major portion of their lives behind bars.

You could care less if innocent people go to prison though, could you? It's worth it to you as long as some drug dealers go down. And of course, these people were black and you've made it plain before how you feel about black people.
79 posted on 01/16/2005 2:20:29 AM PST by TKDietz
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To: TKDietz
"If there was nothing to the claim that this Coleman guy set people up, then why were people awarded this 6 million dollars?"

Not familiar with the case, are you?

Why were they awarded the money? Let's put it this way. If the defendants were white, this wouldn't have even been a story.

Get current and read my post #59.

80 posted on 01/16/2005 5:57:04 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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