Posted on 01/14/2005 12:21:45 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
In the article? The unavailability of AP rounds is mentioned.
The article claims that ordinary (not AP) rounds are capable of penetrating the kevlar vest.
Well that would mean banning of all firearms since any firearm can fire armor-piercing bullets. Balling all guns only allows CRIMINALS to have guns.
Roger that-
The first generation Second Chance wasn't the most comfortable thing in the world.
It was even more uncomfortable when you knew everyone knew you had it.
I remember Air Force SWAT School. They pounded the "Superman Syndrome" into our nuggets hard. It was even a mandatory portion of the Operations Order to remind the Team Members of it.
Bottom line I have always tried to get across to my trainees and subordinates-Toys don't replace training. Vests don't take away the need for sound tactics
I do not know about any laws regarding armor-piericng rounds but any such law would be pointless since rifle rounds will always penetrate vests as do knives.
From the looks of it, 28MM may be the length of the round and 5.7 MM the caliber
After all, just today four people were found murdered (throats slit) in Jersey City
The knifers would never have stood a chance if the victems had guns.
Before you post on a subject, it is useful to know something about it. This is a .22 centerfire pistol. Any cartridge that fires a pointed bullet at oh, 1900 fps or up will shoot through an ordinary ballistic vest. ie one without trauma plates.
There is nothing special at all about this pistol/cartridge combo. 7.62x25 is another pistol cal that will shoot thought a vest. I suspect a .17 rimfire would also penetrate many vests (I don't know for sure as I have never seen or read of a test).
Any centerfire rifle will also do the same. If the cops want to ban this, do they also want to ban deer and varmint rifles?
This is just more Goldielocks gun control. Guns are always too big or too small or too fast but never just right for citizens to own.
Unless the law has changed recently armor piercing pistol ammunition (as defined by the law) is banned. Expand on "Wrong" a bit, if you please.
I figured someone would get to the obvious. Blackbird.
Criminals CAN get bullet proof vests. ANything can be bought on the black market.
Yup. A Tokarev. It was pretty cool. In the East block, everyone knew that a Tokarev would go right through a bullet-proof vest. It's no secret.
"A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."
Well the 2nd amendement has been INFRINGED since the 1930s. The line must be drawn before the leftists ever manage a complete gun ban.
excellent point.
man...that is a beauty.
Too late.
Yer on the list.
There is no Trumball, Conn. It's Trumbull, CT and this is news to me... I live here.
If this author checks his facts as well as he checks his geography, he's an idiot.
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