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1 posted on 01/14/2005 10:59:40 AM PST by george wythe
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2 posted on 01/14/2005 11:00:41 AM PST by george wythe
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To: george wythe

I heard the replay of Breyer's comments on Bennett this morning. It made my skin crawl. He specifically argued that the Constitution is fluid; that "law" has been, is, and should be made by a great and messy "conversation between judges, law school professors and lawyers." Not caselaw, not interpretive law-- "LAW"-- about our most basic societal moral judgments. And foreign law is part of that "conversation."

Think about that. And think about the arrogance behind that view.

Don't mistake the message, folks-- Liberals want nothing less than to change our fundamental form of government. They want to subvert the FF's model from one in which the people make law through their elected officials, to a partenalistic regime of non-responsive elites.

If that's not un-American, what is?


4 posted on 01/14/2005 11:14:58 AM PST by mikeus_maximus
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To: george wythe
Since no lower court (or the USSC's own prior decisions) or foreign judicial decisions are binding, who cares what they say about them? They don't "rely" on any of them since it doesn't matter what those decisions say.

The majority and the minority for any particular decision decides what they want to do, then create arguments to support them in order to make their decisions sound compelling, when in actuality they make it up as they go along.
9 posted on 01/14/2005 11:31:29 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: george wythe

i wonder why, if europes rulings are ok why no sharia rulings in the middle east. i mean how do they pick and choose what ruling they want to follow?


11 posted on 01/14/2005 11:41:20 AM PST by rottweiller_inc
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To: george wythe
I saw this in USAToday this morning. Once again, pictures tell a lot. Scalia looked like an ogre, and Breyer's photo made him look like a model for an ancient Roman statue.

Just sickening.

16 posted on 01/14/2005 11:53:35 AM PST by technochick99 (Self defense is a BASIC human right.)
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To: george wythe

GO SCALIA GO SCALIA. Breyer you should be publicly flogged


17 posted on 01/14/2005 11:56:06 AM PST by brooklyn dave
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To: george wythe
I fail to see why we should give a good sh!tt what the rest of the world considers as their own law or why it is applicable to us. That's their business, not ours.

Judges are supposed to make judgments based on our laws guided by our Constitution, not those of alien and foreign powers. That is their charter. They are supposed to work for us, not them.

If they can't do that at a bare minimum, they should be impeached and removed from office in disgrace - not feted on chin-wagging TV forums as if they are worth listening to.

24 posted on 01/14/2005 2:21:46 PM PST by Gritty ("Congress has not unlimited powers for general welfare, only those specifically enumerated-Jefferson)
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To: george wythe

SPOTREP - LAW - Worldview


28 posted on 01/14/2005 9:37:46 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America is happening)
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PASSING IT ON>.. A RARE APPEARANCE BY JUSTICE SCALIA...

Dont know how long c-span will host the video.. but here it is... Click here for.REAL PLAYER STREAM...

Justices Scalia & Breyer Discussion on Foreign Courts' Impact Supreme Court Justices Antonin Scalia and Stephen Breyer discuss "Whether Foreign Court Decisions Should Impact American Constitution Law."

The event is co-sponsored by American University Washington College of Law and the U.S. Association of Constitutional Law. The moderator is Professor Norman Dorsen of the NYU School of Law, the founding president of the U.S. Association of Constitutional Law. 1/13/2005: WASHINGTON, DC: 1 hr. 40 min.: C-SPAN

29 posted on 01/15/2005 7:54:56 PM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: george wythe
"You can learn something" from foreign countries,

The whole point is the Founding Fathers DID learn something from the foreign countries they came from, and wrote a Constitution for Americans that was better than anything European.

Now we have elitist justices telling us that we should return to the European Socialist rule of law.

If anything the Socialist Europeans could learn a lot from the American Constitutional system.

30 posted on 01/15/2005 9:47:22 PM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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To: george wythe
"You can learn something" from foreign countries, adding that it is a matter of "opening your eyes to things that are going on elsewhere."

That statement is grounds for Impeachment and removal from the bench.

32 posted on 01/15/2005 10:10:20 PM PST by KoRn
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To: george wythe

Billdo Dillbo's hideous attacks on our nation and way of life continue past his . . . . Oval Office blow outs.


36 posted on 01/16/2005 4:32:51 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: george wythe
A Krytocracy is a government ruled by judges.

Justice Breyer's arguments indicate the that he views the courts as a Krytocracy. It has become a way for those who cannot rule under the constitution of a representative democracy, where the will of the people in their various representative assemblies is the source of law, to exercise political, social, and economic power.

The constitution calls for the lifetime appointment of Supreme Court judges in order to prevent them from being subject to political influenced WITH THE UNDERSTANDING that they INTERPERT THE LAW not make it. What Breyer and his ilk fail to realize is that as they continue down this path the people are not helpless and that as they become more arrogant of their political power the people still have the means of asserting their will. Do not be surprised if a justice is impeached for this reason before the end of the decade.
37 posted on 01/16/2005 4:59:24 AM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: george wythe

I know that this is probably going to get me flamed but the 6 Supreme Court justices that made the Lawrence vs. Texas decision citing European Law, not the historical type i.e. Magna Carta etc., are subject to impeachment, though I know it wont happen because Republicans in Congress seem to go through a spine removal process before they are allowed to take their first vote. What part of their oath of Office do the Supreme Court justices not understand. When they sited European Law for that decision they violated their oath of office and are therefore subject to removal.

Ravenstar


40 posted on 01/16/2005 8:36:45 AM PST by Ravenstar (Reinstitute the Constitution as the Ultimate Law of the Land)
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To: george wythe
"You can learn something" from foreign countries, adding that it is a matter of "opening your eyes to things that are going on elsewhere."

Outrageous, and grounds for impeachment and removal. If we learn something from others--which is probably true--then let the legislators pass the laws with the consent of the governed. Impeachment. Now.

41 posted on 01/16/2005 9:08:02 AM PST by jammer
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To: george wythe

I particular like this liberal professor from the American Universiy Washington College of Law. Scalia skewered him.

Check out his work. LOL.

Schwartz, Herman
Books Authored
The Struggle for Constitutional Justice in Post-Communist Europe. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1999.

Packing the Courts: The Conservative Campaign to Rewrite the Constitution. New York: Scribner, 1988.

Reports, Scholarly Papers, and Small Monographs Report on Prison Conditions in USSR. Helsinki Watch, December 1991.

Reports on Prison Conditions in Czechoslovakia, Poland, Turkey, and Brazil. New York: Human Rights Watch, 1989-91.

Works Edited
The Burger Years: Rights and Wrongs In the Supreme Court 1969-1986. New York: Viking, 1987.

Chapters and Other Contributions to Collective Works
"A Brief History of Judicial Review," and "Surprising Success: The New East European Constitutional Courts," in A. Schedler, L. Diamond and M. Plattner, eds., The Self-Restraining State. Lynne Rienner, 1999.

"Access to the Courts," in Essays in Honor of Justice William J. Brennan (forthcoming, 1996).

"Federalism: Importance of the National Government," in ABA Update--Law-Related Education: Federalism--What Is It, Where Might It Take Us. American Bar Association, 1995.

"Constitutional Reform in Czechoslovakia: E Duobus Unum?" 58 University of Chicago Law Review 511 (with Lloyd Cutler) 1991.

"Electronic Surveillance," "National Security and the Fourth Amendment," and "Wiretapping," in L. Levy, K. Karst & D. Mahoney, Encyclopedia of the American Constitution. New York: Macmillan, 1986.

"Affirmative Action," in L. Dunbar (ed.), Minority Report: What Has Happened to Blacks, Hispanics, American Indians and Other Minorities in the Eighties. New York: Pantheon, 1984, reprinted in ___ Dissent ___ (1984), revised in 14 Israel Yearbook on Human Rights 120 (1984), and in G. Ezorsky (ed.), Moral Rights in the Workplace. Albany: SUNY Press, 1987.

"Problems in Parole," in M. Hermann (ed.), Prisoners' Rights Sourcebook. New York: Clark Boardman Company, 1973.

Articles and Other Contributions to Periodicals "Same Old States' Rights Song," The Nation (October 14, 1996).

"Try Them in Absentia," Washington Post (Aug. 27, 1996), reprinted International Herald Tribune (Aug. 29, 1996) (with L. Cutler).

"The Constitutional Issue Behind Proposition 187," Los Angeles Times (October 9, 1994), revised and reprinted in "At Issue," ABA Journal (March 1995).

"Do Economic and Social Rights Belong In a Constitution?" 10 American University Journal of International Law and Policy 1233 (Summer 1995).

"Judgment Days," The Nation (October 23, 1995).

"States' Rights Gospel is an Unholy Notion," Newsday (June 21, 1995).

"The Czech Constitutional Court Decision on the Illegitimacy of the Communist Regime," 1 Parker School Journal of East European Law 392 (1994).

"Lustration in Eastern Europe," 1 Parker School Journal of East European Law 141 (1994).

"Rising Neo-Communists Are A New Breed," Newsday (July 5, 1994).

Analysis of Russian Constitution for ABA-CEELI, December 1993, excerpted and reprinted in Russian and Post-Soviet Economic Report (January, 1994).

"The Court's Right is Still Mighty," Legal Times (July 26, 1993).

"Economic and Social Rights," 8 American University Journal of International Law and Policy 51 (1993).

"Judicial Activism in Russia, of All Places," Legal Times (July 26, 1993).

"The New Courts: An Overview," East European Constitutional Review (Spring 1993).

"The Supreme Court Stays Hard Right," The Nation (October 25, 1993).

"Economic and Social Rights in a Constitution," East European Constitutional Review (Fall 1992).

"The New East European Constitutional Courts," 13 Michigan Journal of International Law 741 (Summer 1992).

"Constitutional Developments in Czechoslovakia," 58 University of Chicago Law Review 511 (June 1991) (with L. N. Cutler).

"Constitutional Developments in Eastern Europe," Journal of International Affairs (June 1991); reprinted in abridged form in TransAtlantic Perspectives (German Marshall Fund, Summer 1991).

"At Issue: A New Banner for States' Rights," 73 American Bar Association Journal 43 (July 1, 1987).

"Federalism - Then and Now," 7 California Lawyer 52 (August 1987).

"The Frantic Reflagging of Bork," 245 The Nation 253 (September 19, 1987).

"New Judicial Activists," 244 The Nation 361 (March 21, 1987).

"The 1986 and 1987 Affirmative Action Cases: It's All Over but the Shouting," 86 Michigan Law Review 524 (1987).

"Property Rights and the Constitution: Will the Ugly Duckling Become a Swan?" 37 American University Law Review 9 (1987).

"Rehnquist's America," 243 The Nation 100 (August 16/23, 1987).

"Rolling Back the Constitution," 245 The Nation 13 (July 4/11, 1987).

"Chief Rehnquist?" 243 The Nation 236 (September 20, 1986).

"Justice Lewis F. Powell: A Pragmatic Independent," 72 American Bar Association Journal 42 (June 15, 1986).

"Mr. Meese and the Constitution," 6 California Lawyer 34 (April 1986).

"Mugging the Constitution," ___ Penthouse ___ (May 1986).

"Why Not the Worst? The Reagan Judges," 242 The Nation 818 (June 14, 1986).

"At Issue: The Senate Can Play Too," 71 American Bar Association Journal 36 (August 1985).

"A Constitutional Shell Game," 241 The Nation 607 (December 7, 1985).

"Reagan Packs the Federal Judiciary," 240 The Nation 513 (May 4, 1985).

"The AT&T Break-up: How Consumers Will Pay and Pay," 39 The Nation 238 (January 21, 1984).

"Fifteen Years of the Burger Court," 239 The Nation 262 (September 24, 1984).

"The Intrusive Ears of the Law," 238 The Nation 1 (June 16, 1984).

"How Do We Know FISH is Working?" 237 The Nation 397 (October 29, 1983).

"Reagan's Bullish on Bugging," 236 The Nation 697 (June 4, 1983).

"Reagan Uncaps Natural Gas," 236 The Nation 330 (March 19, 1983).

"We Should Reregulate, Not Deregulate Natural Gas," ___ Gas Pricing and Rate Making ___ (1983).

"A Constitutional Disaster," 235 The Nation 11 (July 3, 1982).

"A Department Called Justice," 234 The Nation 415 (April 10, 1982).

"Rewriting the Antitrust Laws," 68 American Bar Association Journal 238 (1982).

"A Scorecard for the New Term," 235 The Nation 353 (October 16, 1982).

"Your Phone is a Party Line," 245 Harper's Magazine 106 (October 1982) (with I. Glasser).

"Time to Get the Bugs Out," 231 The Nation 401 (October 25, 1980).

"Bugging Revisited," 229 The Nation 161 (December 22, 1979).

"Burger Court Holds the Line," 229 The Nation 495 (November 17, 1979).

"The Weber Case: Another Step Bakke-wards," 228 The Nation 585 (May 26, 1979).

"The Wiretap Decade," 229 The Nation 1 (September 8, 1979).

"Narrowing Access to Justice: A Major Critique of the Burger Court," 5 Student Lawyer 34 (March 1977), reprinted as "Efficient Courts For Whom?" 16 The Judges' Journal 20 (1977) (with C. Goldberg).

"Protection of Prisoners' Rights," 35 Christianity in Crisis 19 (February 17, 1975).

"Six Years of Tapping and Bugging," 3 Civil Liberties Review 26 (1974).

"Let's Abolish Parole," 103 Reader's Digest 185 (August 1973).

"Myth of Rehabilitation," ___ The Prison Journal ___ (1973).

"A Comment on Sostre v. McGinnis," 21 Buffalo Law Review 775 (1972).

"Judges as Tyrants," 7 Criminal Law Bulletin 129 (1971).

"The Trial Lawyer and...Criminal Law," 7 Trial 2 (July-August 1971).

"The Legitimation of Electronic Eavesdropping: The Politics of 'Law and Order'" 67 Michigan Law Review 455 (1969).

"Electronic Eavesdropping - What the Supreme Court Did Not Do," 4 Criminal Law Bulletin 83 (1968).

"Comsat, the Carriers and the Earth Stations: Some Problems with `Melding Variegated Interests,'" 76 Yale Law Journal 441 (1967).

"The Parent or the Fetus: Abortion and the Law," 27 The Humanist 123 (1967).

"Stop and Frisk: A Case Study in Judicial Control of the Police," 58 Journal of Criminal Law, Criminology & Police Science 433 (1967).

"Wiretapping and Eavesdropping: Pros and Cons," 53 Current History 31 (1967).

"The Wiretapping Problem Today," 2 Criminal Law Bulletin 3 (December 1966) and 3 Criminal Law Bulletin 3 (Jan.-Feb. 1967).

"Retroactivity, Reliability and Due Process: A Reply to Professor Mishkin," 33 University of Chicago Law Review 719 (1966).

"The Common Market Antitrust Laws and American Business," 1965 University of Illinois Law Forum 617.

"Wiretapping: Some Reflections in Opposition," 82 The Christian Century 77 (1965).

Book Review:
C. Silberman, Crisis in Black and White. 14 Buffalo Law Review 189 (1964).

"Governmentally Appointed Directors in a Private Corporation - The Communications Satellite Act of 1962," 79 Harvard Law Review 350 (1965).

Book Review:
C. Radcliffe, The Law and Its Compass. 11 Catholic University Law Review 123 (1962).

45 posted on 01/16/2005 12:35:48 PM PST by I got the rope
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