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F***ing with Freepers: Sex catapults me to the big time
Creative Loafing (Atlanta) ^ | 1/13/05 | CLIFF BOSTOCK

Posted on 01/14/2005 7:57:27 AM PST by madprof98

Woo hoo! I've made the big time. Last month, the website Free Republic featured a thread about my Nov. 18 column, "Queers Who Don't Act Right." You probably don't know much about Free Republic unless you are a right-wing lunatic. Free Republic is so far right that wing-nut gay muckraker Matt Drudge and Lucianne Goldberg, one of the architects of the Clinton-Monica Lewinsky brouhaha, both left the site in 1999 because it was too extreme, even for them.

In the years since, the site has become the contemporary version of a marathon meeting of the old John Birch Society and the KKK. Most recently, Free Republic was in the news when John Corsi, one of the Swift Boat Veterans who authored a book attacking John Kerry, turned out to post embarrassingly racist messages there. (Of course, he argued his racist insults were all "a joke." Talk about your Clintonian rhetoric.) The site also was in the news recently because someone correctly posted that Dan Rather had relied on phony documents to impute President Bush's National Guard service.

Free Republic is so extreme that it's a blast to read. Don't bother to explore the site with the idea of posting an alternative perspective or to correct facts. Your post will simply be deleted, despite its owner's celebration of freedom of speech. The site has no hesitation in reprinting copyrighted material, like my column, even though the Washington Post and Los Angeles Times both successfully sued to stop such theft. In other words, as is generally true of the lunatic far right, the truth, free speech and the law only matter when they support their point of view.

Of course, Freepers, as the creepy wing-nuts on the site are called, were not alone in being outraged by my column. I received quite a lot of mail, mainly from other gay people, questioning my argument that LA Fitness at Ansley Mall overreacted when it closed its sauna because of some occasional sex and reopened it with a new picture window overlooking the locker room. As an update, I might add that the window has effectively eliminated unseen sexual interactions inside the sauna and made room for another, more open form of sex between people on either side of the window: exhibitionism and voyeurism.

Most of my correspondents argued that the occasional discovery of sex in the sauna merited involvement by the police and the health department, reconstruction of the sauna and a report by one of the local TV stations. And, as usual, they concluded that because I called that overreacting, I must favor sex in public spaces. No matter that I said I find the behavior annoying. To be righteous, I must find it -- what? -- criminally actionable.

I wasn't surprised by the reaction. Sex troubles people more than anything. That's why Clinton was impeached for lying about a blowjob, while Bush was re-elected despite lying about a war that has killed thousands. Gay people's oppression is the result of their sex lives, so it's not surprising that they are hypersensitive to anything that might add to the picture of deviance. But it has become obvious that the very effort to make all deviance disappear and to assimilate -- to marry, for example -- increases prejudice.

The Freepers, of course, took outrage over my column to dizzy heights, fabricating arguments I did not make. This began with the man who posted it, "madpro98." He said that I dismissed "all sexual conventions, including common decency, as so much homophobia." Actually, I wrote no such thing. Then, of course, the Freepers concluded that the case of LA Fitness means every gay man is a sauna whore. For example, "Sender" writes: "Does anyone else think it's strange that gay men often have sex in a public toilet stall? ... Even if we had unisex public restrooms, somehow I can't imagine a man and a woman eyeing one another while washing their hands, then just jumping in the stall for a go."

The writer obviously has never been to Buckhead on a Saturday night. But what cracks me up is that the Freepers are so anxious to bash someone like me that they don't even realize when they are supporting a contrary argument. For example, "buffyt" quoted my statement that I don't like "stumbling upon any sex scene to which I have not been invited." Then she riffed obsessively about heterosexual couples at Mardi Gras "coupling all over the place" while the police ignore them. Exactly. Heterosexuals spoil the view with public sexual interactions every bit as much as homosexuals, arguably more, when they can find a place to do it. Nobody followed up on that post, of course.

I'm not going to quote the mind-boggling illogics and endless sophomoric fag-bashing (despite arguing they aren't homophobic). But I will thank "Jack Black," who wrote: "I think this was very well written. He is writing for the audience of radical homosexuals as one, so I have trouble twisting my thoughts enough to get to his point of view, but I still think the writing is good." Kiss me, dude!

Cliff Bostock holds a Ph.D. in depth psychology. Write him at cliff.bostock@ creativeloafing.com.


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To: Darksheare

Yup, it'd be an ugly scene. No skull can withstand those kinds of stresses. Not even thick liberal ones.


461 posted on 01/14/2005 1:56:21 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

It'd be a Kodak moment if one could survive the resultant im/explosion.


462 posted on 01/14/2005 1:57:59 PM PST by Darksheare (Tales from the Freeper Foxhole presents: Darksheare's Coffee vs Midnight Troll)
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To: madprof98
That's why Clinton was impeached for lying about a blowjob

Liberals like to leave off those two key words: UNDER OATH.

463 posted on 01/14/2005 1:58:18 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: Darksheare

Liberal skulls contain a strong vacuum, so it'd be an implosion. You'd definitely want to keep your distance (but definitely snap a pic if you can).

I gotta run, bro. See ya....


464 posted on 01/14/2005 2:02:18 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

I think it'd be a case of state the prank and then run like heck before the event horizon catches up to you.

Okers.
Take care, see you in forum later.


465 posted on 01/14/2005 2:07:09 PM PST by Darksheare (Tales from the Freeper Foxhole presents: Darksheare's Coffee vs Midnight Troll)
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To: madprof98; Jim Robinson
Cool! I've been labeled a prejudicial, homophobic, sophomoric, over-reactive, racist, creepy wing-nut by an oh-so enlightened food taster holding a Ph.D. in depth psychology (whatever that is), and I didn't even comment on the article! Too bad he left out jingoistic, knuckle-dragging toothless Luddite. Having been bestowed such an honor from another member of the voice of tolerance, I guess I'll have to increase my monthly donation . . .

I give it two weeks before Jim receives a "cease and desist" order from this meat-sack. Bon appetit, Cliffy!

BTW, your Ph.D. in depth psychology is trumped by my Masters in basket weaving . . .
466 posted on 01/14/2005 2:20:10 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: Darksheare
Wait a minute. The Zotted lecturer was implying that Cliff's Buttocks scrivening was "intellectual"? Yeah, right.

The Self Anointed exist and have power only if you believe they exist.

Dang, wasn't that some deep psychology?

467 posted on 01/14/2005 2:30:46 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: Max Combined

I got your FReepmail. I took your advice and didn't open it.


468 posted on 01/14/2005 2:33:08 PM PST by Altamira (Get the UN out of the US, and the US out of the UN!)
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To: JoJo Gunn

Pretty much!
He was quite the intellectual jee-ant.
*gagging cough*


469 posted on 01/14/2005 2:38:00 PM PST by Darksheare (Tales from the Freeper Foxhole presents: Darksheare's Coffee vs Midnight Troll)
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To: Altamira

Good. You are learning.


470 posted on 01/14/2005 2:38:20 PM PST by Max Combined
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To: AQGeiger
"You mean the 101st, right? Don't insult the 82nd by associating them with the Screaming Chickens. ;-)

The 101st don't gotta be no chickens now....'member you're dealing with a member of the lunatic far right.

An I got my eye on you

That's vomiting vulture to you :-)

471 posted on 01/14/2005 2:44:17 PM PST by 506trooper (No such thing as too much guns, ammo or fuel on board...unless you're on fire)
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To: SCALEMAN
But your dicipline is defined, hard science.
This junk is some acadameian's concept of what should be. IOW, an opinion.
472 posted on 01/14/2005 2:58:09 PM PST by concretebob (I AM NOT worthless, I'm a perfect Bad Example)
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To: madprof98
Cliff Bostock holds a Ph.D

Further proof that having letters next to your name doesn't necessarily denote intelligence. This article is just too stupid for words.

473 posted on 01/14/2005 3:41:22 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Ten bucks says that he has visited our site and secretly posts here...all in the hope of getting attention for his other supposed day job.


474 posted on 01/14/2005 3:55:19 PM PST by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: madprof98

Ya know.........................since I had the pleasure of missing the original post, and since I just wasted several minutes of my life reading this clown's spew, I am compelled to say......


Homosexuals are just the most pathetic lot. Just totally, completely pathetic. I've never seen such self-righteous bullshit outside of a radical Islamic press release.


475 posted on 01/14/2005 3:57:32 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Zionist Conspirator; Ashamed Canadian; stainlessbanner; Puppage; AQGeiger; Slings and Arrows; ...
I thought that Frederick Dicker's question-posed to New York Dem. Party chairman Denny Farrell-was interesting.

I mean, not marrying the woman who bore your child?

At his age?(!)

"Why didn't he just make an honest woman of her?"

Well, the truth is, he could have made an honest woman of her.

But then, she'd have to change party affiliation.

And let's face it, that's a pain in the ass for us New Yorkers.

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

476 posted on 01/14/2005 4:36:39 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Oi! Oi! Is this a proper parliament?")
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To: jettester

that would explain the goofy freepmails that were sent out.


477 posted on 01/14/2005 4:38:17 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Clemenza; PARodrig; Darksheare; King Prout; bad company; tuliptree76; international american; ...
Ping to comment #476.
478 posted on 01/14/2005 4:41:09 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Oi! Oi! Is this a proper parliament?")
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To: madprof98

The guy is a dickhead with no redeeming features.


479 posted on 01/14/2005 4:43:05 PM PST by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: Darksheare; madprof98
Give Madprof congrats on zinging Bostock. He's found where some of our recent trolls are coming from.

Kudos to you, madprof! and thanks for your ping darksheare; never heard of nor read this Bostock character before. Methinks he needs some cheese for that whine.

480 posted on 01/14/2005 4:45:54 PM PST by nicmarlo
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