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Indonesia denies U.S. pilots use of airspace; carrier leaves
Washington Times ^ | 1/13/05 | Denis D. Gray, AP

Posted on 01/12/2005 11:19:43 PM PST by kattracks

ABOARD THE USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN — The aircraft carrier leading the U.S. military's tsunami relief effort steamed out of Indonesian waters yesterday after the country declined to let the ship's fighter pilots use its airspace for training missions — part of a broad effort by Indonesia to reassert control over its territory.
    The USS Abraham Lincoln's diversion, which was not expected to affect aid flights, came as the White House asked the Indonesian government to explain why it appears to be demanding that the U.S. military and other foreign troops providing disaster relief leave the country by the end of March.

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The Indonesian government said foreign troops would be out of the country by March 31. "A three-month period is enough, even sooner the better," Indonesian Vice President Jusuf Kalla said Tuesday.
    U.S. Marines have scaled back plans to send hundreds of troops ashore to build roads and clear rubble. The two sides reached a compromise in which the Americans agreed not to set up a base camp on Indonesia or carry weapons.
    Instead, the Marines — about 2,000 of whom were diverted to tsunami relief from duty in Iraq — will keep a "minimal footprint" in the country, with most returning to ships at night, said Col. Tom Greenwood, commander of the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit.

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Under Navy rules, pilots of carrier-based warplanes cannot go longer than 14 days without flying, or their skills are considered to have degraded too far and they have to undergo extensive retraining.
    


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; antiamericanism; disasterrelief; geopolitics; indonesia; ingrates; loathethemilitary; muslims; relief; reliefeffort; religionofpeace; southeastasia; sumatraquake; trop; tsunami; tsunamirelief; usefulidiots; usmilitary; ussabrahamlincoln
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To: YoungBlackRepublican
That dude works at the Pentagon? Disconcerting, to put it mildly.
201 posted on 01/13/2005 1:54:19 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: expatguy

Thank you.


202 posted on 01/13/2005 2:05:35 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything- If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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To: HAL9000

"I'm reserving judgement on this. The Indonesian government is about to deploy thousands of troops into Aceh rebel territory..."

I'm with you. I have been listening very carefully to 'professors' and UN personnel and numerous Aid organization Spokespersons, all without fail damn the Indonesian government and military. The accusations of military and government corruption seem to me to be nothing but the support of islamist fanatics in Aceh, whose aim is sharia throughout the region. The Indonesian government of the third largest democracy in the world, is under threat from the islamists whose agenda is the establishment of sharia throughout the region.
The last thing the Inonesians need is support for the fanatics from left wing personnel of the numerous aids organizations IMO.


203 posted on 01/13/2005 3:00:28 PM PST by Fred Nerks (NO TO MUSLIM IMMIGRATION. NO TO MOSQUES. NO TO IMAMS. NO TO ISLAM.)
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To: YoungBlackRepublican

Yeah, and your co-worker is just a convert (I presume).


204 posted on 01/13/2005 4:32:43 PM PST by TeddyCon
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To: kattracks

Oh, you know we have been taking pictures, eavesdropping and recruiting spies the whole time.


205 posted on 01/13/2005 4:41:12 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BROKKANIC

please and thank you are requisite aspects of civilization.

'no thanks' means "no".
that is what they have said.

sometimes it just boils down to 'repent or die'.
and that is what Islam MUST do.
It is killing it's own people and we have been dis-invited to interfere with the 'will of allah.'

so be it.


206 posted on 01/13/2005 6:16:33 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 ("He's NOT a human, he's a holy half-dead")
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To: MizSterious

Folks, we've just been slapped. Do we stick around for more?



No, they are just another islamic outhouse.
It might be wise to smite them down, while they are defenseless and thus overthrow yet another islamist center.

They say no to overflights?
Decimate them with our overflights in a fortnight.
What can they do to stop us? Precious little.

The truth is, EVERY islamic nation, should be a target for renewal after 911. Wherever the islamists hide, have a haven and collect money for our destruction, IS fair game for an upgraded form of life aka 'civlization.'

you know, "We will make no distinction" and all that.

Islam has got to go.


207 posted on 01/13/2005 6:30:47 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 ("He's NOT a human, he's a holy half-dead")
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To: YoungBlackRepublican

That story is chilling.


208 posted on 01/13/2005 6:38:36 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 ("He's NOT a human, he's a holy half-dead")
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To: Mr. Mojo

"That dude works at the Pentagon? Disconcerting, to put it mildly."

Yeah and If I told you WHERE exactly (communciations field) you would really find it Disconcerting.....


209 posted on 01/13/2005 7:02:50 PM PST by YoungBlackRepublican (Being African Amercian doesn't mean you HAVE TO VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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To: TeddyCon

"Yeah, and your co-worker is just a convert (I presume)"

Exactly.....


210 posted on 01/13/2005 7:05:45 PM PST by YoungBlackRepublican (Being African Amercian doesn't mean you HAVE TO VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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To: kattracks

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211 posted on 01/13/2005 7:35:20 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Kozak

"Not getting a penny of mine. Maybe I'll donate to California Flood relief instead. Charity begins at home..."

How about donating the X amount of millions to our veterans familes? Their widows? Their children? A fair better altruistic legacy for the U.S.

Frankly, I believe the UN and the Muslim terrorists are scaring the Indonesia govt with terror tales of what the U.S. infidels will do if the US flies over the Islands!


212 posted on 01/13/2005 7:50:49 PM PST by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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To: YoungBlackRepublican

Regarding your convo with Islamic traitor who is working with you at the Pentagon....

Are his superiors aware of his views? Why is he even working at the Pentagon? Why is he even living in America? This guy should be watched...


213 posted on 01/14/2005 4:50:59 AM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: ghitma

First thing I thought....who or what are they afraid of America finding?


214 posted on 01/14/2005 4:53:09 AM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: JudyinCanada

The tsunami...a weapon of mass destruction that may have saved more people than it killed.


215 posted on 01/14/2005 4:57:04 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: JudyinCanada

"Regarding your convo with Islamic traitor who is working with you at the Pentagon....

Are his superiors aware of his views? Why is he even working at the Pentagon? Why is he even living in America? This guy should be watched..."

The thing is....the Pentagon is very very political. So even though people are aware of his views no one acts cause they are just his "views." However his views might be why he can't seem to get a security clearance...lol...Its weird though cause they let him work on a temporary security badge....( been on that damn temp badge bout 1 year now...but don't get me started)


216 posted on 01/14/2005 4:59:25 AM PST by YoungBlackRepublican (Being African Amercian doesn't mean you HAVE TO VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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To: kittymyrib

Good line. I remember wondering what was being planned in some of these countries, Aceh in particular.


217 posted on 01/14/2005 5:17:58 AM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: YoungBlackRepublican

How about asking this guy point blank if he was happy that 9/11 happened? I would ask him whose side he is on more, America or the Islamic terrorists. I would love to know how he responds.

This is how political correctness is going to be the death of us.


218 posted on 01/14/2005 5:21:20 AM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: Bon mots

I hate to say it but I think its a big mistake for the marines to be there without weapons. You can easily see Al Quaeda attacking and slaughtering our unarmed boys. We should get out now.

Also mark my words, in six months time you will be hearing many stories of aid funds being diverted into the politicians pockets over there. I'll bet that only 10 pct of the money actually goes to helping the unfortunate


219 posted on 01/14/2005 8:35:15 AM PST by ONTHEFIFTY
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To: kattracks

Don't ask "why," just let's leave!


220 posted on 01/14/2005 9:15:44 AM PST by Redbob
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