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Indonesia denies U.S. pilots use of airspace; carrier leaves
Washington Times ^ | 1/13/05 | Denis D. Gray, AP

Posted on 01/12/2005 11:19:43 PM PST by kattracks

ABOARD THE USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN — The aircraft carrier leading the U.S. military's tsunami relief effort steamed out of Indonesian waters yesterday after the country declined to let the ship's fighter pilots use its airspace for training missions — part of a broad effort by Indonesia to reassert control over its territory.
    The USS Abraham Lincoln's diversion, which was not expected to affect aid flights, came as the White House asked the Indonesian government to explain why it appears to be demanding that the U.S. military and other foreign troops providing disaster relief leave the country by the end of March.

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The Indonesian government said foreign troops would be out of the country by March 31. "A three-month period is enough, even sooner the better," Indonesian Vice President Jusuf Kalla said Tuesday.
    U.S. Marines have scaled back plans to send hundreds of troops ashore to build roads and clear rubble. The two sides reached a compromise in which the Americans agreed not to set up a base camp on Indonesia or carry weapons.
    Instead, the Marines — about 2,000 of whom were diverted to tsunami relief from duty in Iraq — will keep a "minimal footprint" in the country, with most returning to ships at night, said Col. Tom Greenwood, commander of the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit.

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Under Navy rules, pilots of carrier-based warplanes cannot go longer than 14 days without flying, or their skills are considered to have degraded too far and they have to undergo extensive retraining.
    


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; antiamericanism; disasterrelief; geopolitics; indonesia; ingrates; loathethemilitary; muslims; relief; reliefeffort; religionofpeace; southeastasia; sumatraquake; trop; tsunami; tsunamirelief; usefulidiots; usmilitary; ussabrahamlincoln
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1 posted on 01/12/2005 11:19:43 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks

Oh isn't that nice of them? Thanks for nothing, U.S.


2 posted on 01/12/2005 11:21:23 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kattracks

but lemme guess.....they still want our money?


3 posted on 01/12/2005 11:23:33 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: snopercod

Bump.


5 posted on 01/12/2005 11:25:42 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: kattracks
Indonesian is one screwed up country
6 posted on 01/12/2005 11:26:58 PM PST by Mo1 (Does the distinguished Sen from VT wish to act as our treaty rep. for negotiations with Al Queda?)
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To: kattracks
The answer is obvious. Excuse us for trying to help. We should leave and return to what we were doing. No point being where we are not wanted. We shouldn't leave them any money either.

Hey, we offered help, they declined it. Doesn't make US the bad guy, now does it?

Nik
7 posted on 01/12/2005 11:27:39 PM PST by Nik Naym
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To: kattracks

F the Indonesian government!


8 posted on 01/12/2005 11:28:08 PM PST by Pro-Bush (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --General Douglas MacArthur)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
but lemme guess.....they still want our money?

Well, yeah. They want us to leave the money beside their Islamic bed and slip out quietly.

9 posted on 01/12/2005 11:28:51 PM PST by xJones
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Not getting a penny of mine. Maybe I'll donate to California Flood relief instead. Charity begins at home...


10 posted on 01/12/2005 11:30:32 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: kattracks
The Indonesian government said foreign troops would be out of the country by March 31. "A three-month period is enough, even sooner the better," Indonesian Vice President Jusuf Kalla said Tuesday.

Any word on whether Jusef Kalla's pointed middle-finger poked skyward in the general direction of the Lincoln has yet been folded back into his fist?

11 posted on 01/12/2005 11:31:07 PM PST by F16Fighter
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The USS Abraham Lincoln's diversion, which was not expected to affect aid flights, came as the White House asked the Indonesian government to explain why it appears to be demanding that the U.S. military and other foreign troops providing disaster relief leave the country by the end of March.

Bush is asking why, rather than saying OK Indonesia, wish granted?

12 posted on 01/12/2005 11:32:26 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: kattracks
Who knows what's really going on out there, and don't post it if you do.

As I said in FR post: U.S. Should Not Help Tsunami Victims

Bleep the Osbama T-shirt wearing muslims in Indonesia! You're either wit' us or your again' us!

13 posted on 01/12/2005 11:34:31 PM PST by benjaminjjones
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To: international american

You got that right. Stinking seventh-century savages value nothing humane or decent.


14 posted on 01/12/2005 11:35:12 PM PST by broadsword (It was far beyond anything seen here before!)
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To: kcvl

Oh!!!!!!!!!!


15 posted on 01/12/2005 11:36:16 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"Bush is asking why, rather than saying OK Indonesia, wish granted?"

Correct. Now lets see what that little question did to the pucker factor in Indonesia!

16 posted on 01/12/2005 11:41:42 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

Well, not if Bush couched it in terms of "we can't complete the promised charity if we have to leave that soon."


17 posted on 01/12/2005 11:45:14 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: kattracks

I hate to be cynical but they've claimed over 200,000 dead but won't allow anyone to verifiy the number because they're blocking access to the disaster areas. Does the UN contribute money and manpower based on the number of dead?


18 posted on 01/12/2005 11:45:58 PM PST by Jean S
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

this just sickens me...they want our money but not our presence.....sorry people you can't have it that way....

I mean what....Do they expect us to send them a blank check and "HOPE" they do the right thing....please....
with our past experience.....can you say "food for oil program"......friggin unbelieveable....

makes me wanna say to hell with them...but I realize that not all the people are like that and they really do need our help...IT WOULD JUST BE NICE TO BE APPRECIATED FOR ONCE.......!!!!!!!!!!

First we're "Stingy" now this!


19 posted on 01/12/2005 11:46:21 PM PST by YoungBlackRepublican (Being African Amercian doesn't mean you HAVE TO VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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To: kattracks

I always felt that the only thing we should have been delivering to the Indonesian Muslims on Aceh were cluster bombs.


20 posted on 01/12/2005 11:46:38 PM PST by Bon mots
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