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To: OXENinFLA
Which ones?.

Tancredo is no source. The man himself hires illegals to work on his own house. I notice he didn't name one 9/11 hijacker that entered this country illegally. And neither did you.

60 posted on 01/11/2005 7:38:04 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone

Wouldn't the fact that they produced fraudulent documents to obtain legal entry to this country, be considered illegal entry, therefore illegal aliens??


72 posted on 01/11/2005 8:03:45 AM PST by JesseJane (CBS - The Greatest Snow(job) on Earth......)
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To: ClintonBeGone

You get robbed by someone who stormed the front door. So lets lock the front door. Then you get robbed by someone who came through the back door, so then you lock the back door. Then you get robbed by someone who came through the windows, so you bar up the windows. Etc, Etc, Etc.

From a security standpoint, having open borders is insane.


81 posted on 01/11/2005 8:16:17 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: ClintonBeGone
Those comments were made during the CONFERENCE REPORT ON S. 2845, INTELLIGENCE REFORM AND TERRORISM PREVENTION ACT OF 2004 -- (House of Representatives - December 07, 2004) having to with the issuance of drivers licenses and the he was responding to this remark by Rep SMITH of New Jersey.
Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Speaker, I just want to make the point that this legislation is a victory for the 9/11 families who lost loved ones, heroes, on September 11, 2001. Those family members who were the ones who were instrumental in creating the 9/11 Commission in the first place and who have been tenacious and persevering in making sure that we do the right thing deserve the credit. I want to commend them on their great work on this.

   Let me also respond to the previous speaker. By any measure, this legislation will improve our Nation's ability to protect against terrorism. The 9/11 Commission pointed out so well, and I quote them, ``Travel documents are as important as weapons.'' In a provision that I have long advocated for, and that was put in this legislation by the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. HYDE), we now have provisions that fortify the visa application process and ensure that our consuls abroad have to thoroughly interview those who are applying for a nonimmigrant visa and meticulously inspect their documents.

   Let me remind my colleagues that those who committed the atrocities of 9/11 entered the U.S.legally. They got their visas. They went to one of our consuls in Saudi Arabia and, regrettably, the personnel there were giving out visas like cotton candy. The terrorists exploited a weakness in the system. So they came here legally. They were not illegal immigrants. And that point needs to be underscored.

   This legislation with Chairman Hyde's language closes that loophole so that terrorist will be stopped before they get their visas. That's a critical provision in a bill with many, many new programs and I support it.


Let's not confuse your immigration agenda with homeland security.

I'm kind of with you on that, they are separate issues but do overlap when you have a terrorist coming into this country via a "Coyote" at the Mexican border. I don't really have a problem w/ legal immigration as long as people are vetted before they come in and there is enforcement to kick people out when their visa's expire.

And as far as Tancredo hiring illegals I hadn't heard about that before but just did a bit of digging and found this. Kinda sounds like a ant hill being made into a mountain.

89 posted on 01/11/2005 8:24:10 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: ClintonBeGone

Tancredo is no source. The man himself hires illegals to work on his own house.

Tancredo hired a contractor to do work on his house. The contractor was responsible for hiring the workers.


95 posted on 01/11/2005 8:27:25 AM PST by cassie22
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To: ClintonBeGone

He stated "ALL OF THEM". What do you mean he didn't name any?

These were 19 guys with 63 driver's licenses among them, operating under an number of aliases.

I believe a number of them came here to attend school, but never did. Others did attend school, and we can see what they learned.

This isn't a topic for this thread, granted, but you did ask.


129 posted on 01/11/2005 10:45:29 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
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To: ClintonBeGone

what's your source on Tancredo


132 posted on 01/11/2005 10:53:07 AM PST by marajade
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