New Error Found in Vote Tally - Oops...never mind [Kiev County, WA]

Seattle times ^ | 1/11/05 | Keith Ervin

[Timeout]

Oops — never mind.

Three days after King County election officials explained most of a controversial discrepancy between the number of ballots cast and voters known to have voted, the gap has grown again.

After whittling the discrepancy from 3,539 votes to 1,217 last week, officials yesterday said they had made a mistake.

The number of votes now unaccounted for is "somewhere around 1,800," county Elections Superintendent Bill Huennekens said yesterday.

It's impossible to come up with a precise number, Huennekens said, because workers are adding and deleting names of registered voters as they update the list in preparation for a Feb. 8 special election.

[mainepatsfan]

Then when the refs overrule them the coach at the end of the game is angry that the refs played a part in the outcome of the game.

[Seattle Conservative]

Agree.

Update on revote petition - just heard on the radio over 200,000 signatures in about 12 days - the petitions will be delivered to the legislature and the court today.

State Senate tried to stop (postpone) the ratification yesterday - 1 Dem crossed over; however, unfortunately we lost by 1 vote.
The House is taking it up today.

[cvq3842]

Absolutely!

[cvq3842]

Sounds about right!

Disagreeing on policy is one thing. Rigging elections is quite another.

This is not politics. This is criminal behavior.

People should go to jail for this.

[DaisyCutter]

"Yesterday was the second time in two days that King County elections officials corrected a factual error. They changed the county's election Web site Sunday to correct the date when absentee ballots were sent to 3,055 military and overseas voters. The county initially reported the ballots were mailed Oct. 10, two days after a deadline negotiated with the federal government. The online fact sheet now says ballots were mailed Oct. 7. Logan said Sunday that he discovered the date on the fact sheet originally posted by King County was in error. He said numbers on the report, which he produced himself, were inadvertently changed when converted to code for the Web site."

I call bulls**t. Even if you're using some lame word processing doc to web page conversion program, or save as a web page in some word processor, the program doesn't magically change dates from one date to another. If he wants to claim that, he darn well better be able to demonstrate that the magically changing numbers can be reliably reproduced.

In addition to the approximately 1,800 votes county officials can't account for, Logan said up to 348 voters improperly put provisional ballots into counting machines at polling places before their signatures or eligibility had been verified.

That right there is grounds to throw out the results, imo.

[4woodenboats]

Kiro, King, (tv) and either Seattle PI or Times all ran polls asking whether Rossi should concede (no, 56% avg) & should there be a revote (60+ avg., KIRO was 73% last time I looked). They may still be, I don't know and I gotta run. Real timely how Logan has an excuse to Shark (soundpolitcs.com), huh? Code changing to wrong # my ass!!

[mainepatsfan]

They should but I fear they won't.

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Soundpolitics.com has put out a call to military voters to try and find the original envelopes their absentee ballots were mailed in.

He's looking for postmarks AFTER the 10th, supposedly the last day Kiev County mailed ballots. Spread the word if you know any such voters.

[DaisyCutter]

Soundpolitics.com had some info that the ballots would have been bulk mailed, and therefore no postmark... however, there would have been records of the mailing at the post office and they've posted an email from someone that said they checked with the post office about it

From Bulk Permit #1455 (the permit that is used for mailing absentee ballots)

What I have found is that there was activity only on that account on October 2nd (1,605 pieces) and October 13th. (28,000 pieces) There was no activity in between those to dates.

I asked if the submission and billing occurs on the same day. And the computer showed that yes the bulk mailing was received by USPS on the 13th and billed on the 13th.

-snip-

Before I left I repeated myself "no activity from the between the 2nd and 13th?" She said "No activity"

I will confirm with the supervisor that there are no other bulk permits used for absentee ballots.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Paging Lewis Carroll.

[LachlanMinnesota]

The refs catch the pass and lateral to the dems...

[Timeout]

LOL!

[patton]

hey coop - what would happen if your polling station had 1500 more votes than voters?

[Publius]

Ping.

[Publius]

Ping.

[Publius]

Ping.

[mainepatsfan]

It's like changing the rules in the middle of the game.

[Coop]

hey coop - what would happen if your polling station had 1500 more votes than voters?

That would be a neat trick. And I'd have some serious 'splainin' to do!

[MIT-Elephant]

What's really ironic but not funny is that the Times has a hysterical column by William Raspberry on the OpEd page, crying about 'harassment of poor and black voters' in Ohio. And he takes as his sole source John Conyers!

[Timeout]

I noticed that, too!

Irony, thy name is Rats.