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Your Call (and Rants on Hold) Will Be Monitored
NY Times ^ | January 11, 2005 | KEN BELSON

Posted on 01/10/2005 7:50:29 PM PST by neverdem

MELVILLE, N.Y. - It is the opening line on so many phone conversations these days: This call may be monitored for quality assurance purposes.

The taped message is so common that many callers might assume that no one is ever listening, let alone taking notes. But they would be wrong.

Monitoring is intended to track the performance of call center operators, but the professional snoops are inadvertently monitoring callers, too. Most callers do not realize that they may be taped even while they are on hold.

It is at these times that monitors hear husbands arguing with their wives, mothers yelling at their children, and dog owners throwing fits at disobedient pets, all when they think no one is listening. Most times, the only way a customer can avoid being recorded is to hang up.

"You could have a show on Broadway just playing the calls," said Mike Schrider, president of J.Lodge, a call monitoring service based in Hammonton, N.J.

Call monitors eavesdrop on millions of exchanges a year, and listening to the mumblings and rants of people on hold comes with the job. Over all, about 2 percent of the hundreds of millions of calls made to call centers are monitored by a company's own managers or, increasingly, by third-party monitoring companies, which have come on the scene in the last couple of years.

Tapping into calls from his cubicle in Melville, N.Y., Stuart Pike is one of an army of listeners employed by these companies. He has an unrestricted view of how corporate America deals with the public - and how the public talks back.

The business of assessing the behavior of operators has taken on a new urgency in recent years. With so many companies selling similar products at similar prices, competent and professional customer service agents are more and more the difference between a sale and a lost opportunity, a burnished brand and a tarnished one.

That reality has turned third-party call monitoring into a fast-growing industry watching over the nation's six million call center operators as well as hundreds of thousands offshore. And people like Mr. Pike, who listens to about 150 calls a week, have become the equivalent of factory foremen policing America's service economy.

Recently, Mr. Pike stumbled onto a call where a young male customer was flirting with a female service agent at a cellphone company. After some giggles and banter, the woman relented and gave her personal phone number to the customer. Mr. Pike quickly alerted the cellphone company to the phone date.

"You'd be surprised how casual it can get," said Mr. Pike, who works at Aon Consulting, one of the nation's biggest third-party call center monitors. "It's like watching TV. There's always something interesting on."

Some privacy advocates worry that monitors, as well as operators, can steal customer passwords and other sensitive data. Thus far, few documented cases of identity theft have been unearthed involving monitors, and most monitoring companies screen their applicants. State wiretapping laws generally do not provide protection against recording of call center conversations (the taped message at the start of the call is in most cases considered an adequate privacy warning).

Fears of identity theft have not slowed the monitoring business. In fact, under tighter scrutiny by regulators, most financial institutions are now taping all their calls.

The growth of monitoring has also been fueled by the advent of Internet phone technology, which has substantially cut the cost of long-distance calls and made call monitoring as easy as clicking a mouse. Sophisticated software that automatically records conversations has increased the number of calls monitors can assess.

As more call centers move offshore, companies are starting to outsource the monitoring, too. From any corner of the globe, call monitors with just a computer and an Internet connection can oversee workers virtually anywhere. For instance, Mr. Pike on Long Island listens to service agents in India who may be talking to customers in Indiana. Monitors in Britain are likely to listen to customers in New York talking to German operators in Frankfurt.

In effect, monitors have become referees on an international scale. "We act as the conscience of the company," said Paul Kowal, the president of Kowal Associates, an industry consultant and a third-party monitor.

Sometimes, refereeing means reporting off-color calls - known in call center parlance as a "hot line" - like the flirtation that Mr. Pike overheard. Plenty of other calls also raise red flags, including customers and operators who shout, swear, talk politics or threaten bodily harm. Anyone hanging up - either an operator or an angry customer - sends out warnings, too.

Just a few years ago, most companies simply ranked their operators on how quickly they picked up calls and ended them. Now call monitors rate operators by checking off boxes on detailed electronic questionnaires that assess qualities like efficiency, conversational skills and ability to mollify frustrated customers. The scores from each monitored call are collected to rank an operator's performance.

Handling angry callers "is like dealing with road rage," Mr. Pike said.

Operators who can defuse aggression - a not-insignificant talent - win plaudits. Operators also have to deal with the slow talkers, the lonely chatterers and the absent-minded. At night, the drunks come out.

Hearing this hidden side of American commerce turns the monitors into amateur experts in American phone etiquette. "Bad calls stick in my mind because I can't believe what I've heard," said Renee Rea, who sits, with headphones on, a few rows from Mr. Pike in a room largely silent except for fingers tapping on keyboards.

To do the job, Ms. Rea and her colleagues need an aptitude for listening, a rare commodity in a culture where the opposite of talking is waiting to talk. Indeed, finding monitors willing to sit in silence all day is not easy, and turnover is a problem for jobs that involve a mix of industrial psychology and Marketing 101.

Monitors typically score operators on their "openings," like the friendliness of their greeting. They flag annoying habits like using run-on sentences or talking in a monotone, and even gauge the mood of calls by noting whether operators sound like they are smiling as they talk.

Operators are given demerits for transferring customers without asking, keeping someone on hold for too long and blaming others instead of trying to solve problems. Providing incorrect information is another no-no.

Occasionally, monitors will right mistakes they hear. Michael Betts, another Aon assessor, once heard an operator book a hotel room for a customer on the wrong date. Mr. Betts, a former comptroller who says he is "a born editor," alerted the hotel, which notified the customer and undid the error.

Sometimes, monitors are privy to domestic disputes that erupt in the background during a call. But intervening on those calls is rare because many are recorded and are assessed hours after they take place; often the monitor does not know the caller's location.

Joyce Van Doren, an assessor for J.Lodge, recalled one man who canceled the cable service that was in his name because, he said, he had just divorced. The man, however, failed to hang up the phone when the customer service agent ended the call, so the tape kept rolling.

That is when Ms. Van Doren heard him reveal his real motive to a friend in the room: getting back at his former wife, who was going to be livid when she came home to find the cable TV disconnected.

Other calls are more poignant. Ms. Rea at Aon recalled with a tinge of sadness a woman who called a financial institution to change the name on her account because her husband had died. Rather than offering condolences and making an emotional connection with the customer, however fleeting, the agent robotically asked for her account number. Ms. Rea marked the agent down for failing to show empathy.

Operators can also be marked down for being too helpful. Ms. Van Doren recalls one who told a customer about a special promotion on a cable service that was to start two weeks later. The customer was delighted, but the operator was reprimanded for failing to make the sale the day the customer called.

With thousands of call center jobs moving overseas, monitors are also noticing a growing reaction against operators with foreign accents. More customers now ask to speak to an American after they hear an operator with an Indian accent, said Miriam Nelson, who helps run Aon Consulting's center.

"In India, the operators are doing a lot of the courtesies they are trained to do," Ms. Nelson said, but they often miss the nuance of conversations. She added that some Indian call centers show their operators episodes of "Seinfeld" and "Friends" to teach them about American culture.

Nothing on television, though, can prepare an Indian operator for chatty American consumers who like to talk about the ups and downs of the New York Yankees or the latest blizzard in Chicago.

Perhaps inevitably, monitoring is also moving offshore. HyperQuality, which is based in Seattle, has 100 call monitors in New Delhi who eavesdrop on call center workers around the United States. Those raters, oceans away, are trying to make sense of hot lines and hotheads, too.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Technical; US: District of Columbia
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1 posted on 01/10/2005 7:50:30 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

"...many callers might assume that no one is ever listening, let alone taking notes."

Didn't read this whole piece, but I do know a person who got a mortgage only because the lender went back to listen to the tapes and had to acknowledge a verbal approval had been given. A somewhat complicated situation, but in that case at least, it really helped my friend, the caller.


2 posted on 01/10/2005 7:53:39 PM PST by jocon307 (Ann Coulter was right)
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To: neverdem
Anyone hanging up - either an operator or an angry customer - sends out warnings, too.

In that case, I have sent out numerous "warnings". While they are "monitoring" me, I am MONITORING them. When they start to get tacky, I just explain that I am "monitoring" their call for "quality assurance" and start taping them (I tell them what I am doing).

3 posted on 01/10/2005 7:58:42 PM PST by kcvl
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To: jocon307
You don't have to worry about India as much as what's happening here in the United States.

Each state controls the law that determines what you have to say and whether you can record the call.

Here in Indiana, as long as one party agrees to the call being recorded, it's OK.

I have a $10 device on my phone that runs to a tape recorder. I'm a journalist. I use the device to record calls so I can take better notes and to ensure I quote people properly.

I don't have to tell anyone I am recording them. I generally do as a rule, because I believe it's the ethical thing to do. But it also protects me from people who are pissed at me, or those mindless phone calls at 3 a.m.

It also protects me against telemarketers. If I buy something over the phone, I record the call. I also tell them, when they tell me, that I am recording the call. I find I generally get better service.

4 posted on 01/10/2005 8:01:54 PM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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To: neverdem
As more call centers move offshore, companies are starting to outsource the monitoring, too.

Thus far, few documented cases of identity theft have been unearthed involving monitors, and most monitoring companies screen their applicants.

How reassuring.

5 posted on 01/10/2005 8:03:41 PM PST by Innisfree
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To: neverdem
Nothing on television, though, can prepare an Indian operator for chatty American consumers who like to talk about the ups and downs of the New York Yankees or the latest blizzard in Chicago.

lol When I called for help with my COMPAQ computer my call went to India. Yes, I got chatty with him. The accent wasn't American, so I asked where he was. "India? What time is it there?"

But then I like to chat with any of those places I call. Yes, "where are you? How's the weather?" I want to make their day brighter.

You mean they listen to me while I'm on hold? That sounds fun. Mostly just me and my cats.... see? I like to chat...

6 posted on 01/10/2005 8:11:16 PM PST by eccentric (aka baldwidow)
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To: neverdem

Wish the bastards would ever hear me ranting when -- while their bloody inefficiency keeps me hanging for forty minutes or and hour, usually at a Dollar a minute from the far abroad -- their arrogantly-insulting bloody recorded message tells me that my call is "very important" to whoever the Hell they are!


7 posted on 01/10/2005 8:19:21 PM PST by Brian Allen (Who is Bob Wallace?)
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To: eccentric
lol When I called for help with my COMPAQ computer my call went to India. Yes, I got chatty with him. The accent wasn't American, so I asked where he was. "India? What time is it there?"

When I first got my Amex card I had to call them over a foul-up. A lady with a heavy Indian accent picked up the call.

I asked where she was and she replied, "Ft.Lauderdale".

I said, "No way! I'm in New Dehli. How about them Pachyderms?!".

Coulda heard a pin drop.

8 posted on 01/10/2005 8:30:06 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Got Wood?)
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To: neverdem

That doesn't anger me as much as having to listen to a second recording "Si habla usted Espanol, etc. etc.,, numero dos."

I NEVER select EITHER button. I just WAIT until the operator gets to me. I find this contiunual pandering to other languages, which is most prevalent in the case of Spanish, to be highly offensive.

This is America and only ENGLISH should be permitted in the public forum.


9 posted on 01/10/2005 8:30:59 PM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
I said, "No way! I'm in New Dehli. How about them Pachyderms?!".

LOL Well done.

Today I got a telemarketing call for someone else in the household. "Is [xxx] there?" No. "Do you know when [xxx] will be back." NO. "Who am I speaking to?" Someone else, click.

10 posted on 01/10/2005 8:35:49 PM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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To: eccentric

(claw,claw,claw on the couch)
STOP IT!

(claw,claw,claw)
STOP IT!

(claw,claw,claw)
QUIT IT, YOU STUPID CAT, OR I'LL BEAT THE LIVING CRAP OUTTA YOU!!

(claw,claw,claw)

*THUNK*



11 posted on 01/10/2005 8:41:28 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: neverdem

I just sit there on hold, explaining all the vile things the call-monitoring perverts need to do to themselves. Let them listen.


12 posted on 01/10/2005 8:42:46 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: ZULU
I find this contiunual pandering to other languages, which is most prevalent in the case of Spanish, to be highly offensive.

You actually get offended by companies "pandering" to their non-English speaking customers? That just sounds silly.

13 posted on 01/10/2005 8:44:50 PM PST by new cruelty
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To: Brian Allen
their arrogantly-insulting bloody recorded message tells me that my call is "very important" to whoever the Hell they are!

Remember when it used to be music on hold? Now it's music interrupted every twenty seconds by a recorded voice asking if you knew you can access help through their piece-o-crap website that is just real enough for a half a second to fool you into thinking "Hey, someone's answering!" No, they aren't.

14 posted on 01/10/2005 8:47:45 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: stands2reason

LOL not quite, usually she claws on me and I send her to the couch. I have a 'flat' desk phone and the cats will step on it, not just pushing numbers, but the redial.....


15 posted on 01/10/2005 8:49:40 PM PST by eccentric (aka baldwidow)
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To: IncPen

might be useful


16 posted on 01/10/2005 8:55:49 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Petronski
Today I got a telemarketing call for someone else in the household. "Is [xxx] there?" No. "Do you know when [xxx] will be back." NO. "Who am I speaking to?" Someone else, click.

:-) My wife plays along with them. Drives me nuts. Usually something like this:

Telemarketer: "Is [xxx] there?"
Wife: "May I ask what this is in reference to?"
T: "Oh, well we have blah, blah, blah and ..."
W: "Is he expecting your call?"
T: "Well, he did sign this card asking for information."
W: "I'm sorry to say I haven't seen him."
T: "Do you know when he'll be back?"
W: "Unfortunately, no. He died last week."

Or just anything without really saying whether the guy lives there or not.

17 posted on 01/10/2005 9:04:19 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Got Wood?)
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To: eccentric

i worked at guardian life in the dental member services. we were heavily monitored, scored and expected to improve.

we were not allowed to say merry christmas or happy holidays but if the caller said, "merry christmas" we were allow to say, "thanks, you too"

what most people dont know is that when the recording says that you may be monitored for quality assurance purposes, you most certainly are recorded.

this can work to your advantage. if a operator gives you information that is incorrect and yet will benefit you, for example, if they say that your plan will cover a root canal or dentures and your plan doesn't cover this the supervisors will pull the call (stored on computer), listen to it and will usually make arrangements to pay for the service because the operator made a verbal contract with you.

this can save you big bucks so keep your ears open


18 posted on 01/10/2005 9:04:43 PM PST by icemaniceman
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To: VeniVidiVici

I like to switch up foreign languages:


"Is [XXX] there?"

"L'Hopital de Notre Dame, Department d'urgences."

"Excuse me?"

"What?"

"Is [XXX] there?"

"Nyet, nyet...ya nye panimayu. Gavariti pa russki?"

"Pardon me?"

"What the hell do you want?"

"Is [XXX] there?"

"Quoi! Qu'est'ce qu'il n'y'a encore?"


Heck, at that point, accuracy doesn't even matter, as long as it's foreign-sounding.






Great fun!


19 posted on 01/10/2005 9:09:56 PM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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To: eccentric

Actually that was me...


20 posted on 01/10/2005 9:22:02 PM PST by stands2reason
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