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Rumsfeld-McCain feud grew after summer lunch
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | January 10, 2005 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 01/09/2005 10:15:43 PM PST by Former Military Chick

Defense officials say that the Donald H. Rumsfeld-John McCain relationship, never the closest or friendliest, really soured at a private meeting the two had last summer.

The strong-willed defense secretary and the equally hard-nosed Republican senator from Arizona, both ex-Navy pilots and hawks on Iraq, were supposed to make peace over two nagging issues.

Mr. McCain did not believe Mr. Rumsfeld was adequately paying attention to, or disclosing information about, the Boeing tanker lease scandal; Mr. Rumsfeld wanted Mr. McCain to lift his opposition to several Pentagon nominations bogged down in the Senate.

Rather than serving as a peacemaker, the meeting turned into a frank exchange of views that left both men bitter toward the other, according to two defense sources who were briefed later.

"It went very badly," said one source. "Rumsfeld brought over McCain to schmooze him. It didn't work."

The sources differed on the exact wording, but they agreed that when Mr. Rumsfeld was unable to persuade the Arizona Republican to let the nominees go forward, he suggested the senator, a prisoner of war in Vietnam, was hurting the war effort.

"This is when McCain just about climbed over the table," one source said.

A spokeswoman for the senator did not return phone messages.

The two men, who share a penchant for blunt talk, had not gotten along well before the meetings. But defense and congressional aides say the relationship worsened afterward, with the senator dug in even harder on blocking the nominees.

The Bush administration and the Pentagon are becoming increasingly concerned about avoiding a repeat of what they dub the "McCain effect" in 2005, because Mr. Rumsfeld plans this year to restock his senior offices and needs the approval of the Senate -- thus Mr. McCain.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; mccain; mcidiot; mclame; rowanscarborough; scarborough
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Can't we all just get along. Oops that is a slogan for something, and NOT for anything in DC.
1 posted on 01/09/2005 10:15:44 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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The sources differed on the exact wording, but they agreed that when Mr. Rumsfeld was unable to persuade the Arizona Republican to let the nominees go forward, he suggested the senator, a prisoner of war in Vietnam, was hurting the war effort. "This is when McCain just about climbed over the table," one source said.

I do love Rummy! How many others would have the guts to say that to General McCain's face?

2 posted on 01/09/2005 10:25:00 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Former Military Chick; prairiebreeze; onyx; Texasforever; CyberAnt; BigSkyFreeper; Tamsey; ...
"This is when McCain just about climbed over the table," one source said.

Temper Temper Temper

Oh and nice of McCain to block appointments .. NOT!

3 posted on 01/09/2005 10:25:16 PM PST by Mo1 (Does the distinguished Sen from VT wish to act as our treaty rep. for negotiations with Al Queda?)
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To: Former Military Chick

Putting this on a personal level, if that is what this has become, serves no good purpose for anyone, especially the country and the Services. Get your acts together boys, your bigger than this, do your duty!!


4 posted on 01/09/2005 10:26:05 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Sit nomen Dómini benedíctum,Ex hoc nunc, et usque in sæculum! per ómnia saecula saeculórum)
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McVain going toe to toe with Rummy is akin to Pee Wee Herman in the ring with Tyson.
5 posted on 01/09/2005 10:28:12 PM PST by Texasforever (It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chew your butt out all day long.)
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*L* Yep

I would have loved to seen the exchange of words they had :0)


6 posted on 01/09/2005 10:29:44 PM PST by Mo1 (Does the distinguished Sen from VT wish to act as our treaty rep. for negotiations with Al Queda?)
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Disgusting.


7 posted on 01/09/2005 10:31:25 PM PST by onyx
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Disgusting.

I am not! I was just reading the articles.

8 posted on 01/09/2005 10:33:49 PM PST by Texasforever (It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chew your butt out all day long.)
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To: Texasforever

LOL!
Hey you!
Happy New Year, Tex.


9 posted on 01/09/2005 10:36:06 PM PST by onyx
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To: Former Military Chick

Would somebody please put some tranquilizers in McCain's water? I'm beginning to think that guys ego has way overrun his love for this country. Blocking nomination to the Pentagon are so far out of line I can hardly believe it.


10 posted on 01/09/2005 10:36:13 PM PST by McGavin999 (Senate is trying to cover their A$$es with Rumsfeld's hide)
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Back at ya. LOL


11 posted on 01/09/2005 10:37:30 PM PST by Texasforever (It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chew your butt out all day long.)
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Would somebody please put some tranquilizers in McCain's water? I'm beginning to think that guys ego has way overrun his love for this country.

Senator John McEgo (R-AZ)

12 posted on 01/09/2005 10:39:10 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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I worked for him for a very short while and my impression of him was of an empty suit.


13 posted on 01/09/2005 10:43:12 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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I worked for him for a very short while and my impression of him was of an empty suit.

Really?! But even empty suits have egos...

14 posted on 01/09/2005 10:56:08 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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"This is when McCain just about climbed over the table," one source said.

I don't know how that guy keeps from busting a blood vessel in his brain.

15 posted on 01/09/2005 10:59:25 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Shaking nine point oh - With a deadly wave goodbye - oh four departed...)
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To: Mo1

Of course McCain is hurting the war effort .. he's siding with the dems who are against the war. I know he usually votes very conservative, but these actions and smarmy comments about Bush and Rumsfeld are uncalled for.


16 posted on 01/09/2005 10:59:52 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: Former Military Chick

McCain should have backed down. He strikes me as the most expendable man in this equation.

Why isn't anyone praising Rumsfeld's reforms for the ability of the US military to respond so fast to the Tsunami victims?


17 posted on 01/09/2005 11:00:15 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Former Military Chick

It won't be long, before we all learn what it is that torments McInsane..

The Senator was far too friendly with his Communist former tormentors during Senate hearings into Vietnam's record on revealing all they knew about our MIAs/POWs -- and far too dismissive of the families whose loved ones have not yet been accounted for...

I have long suspected that McInsane has much to hide -- and that there must be a reason he is close to the other phoney: Kerry, the traitor..

Semper Fi


18 posted on 01/09/2005 11:03:16 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Soul Seeker

I think it's time for the McCain recall to be revived.

He needs to be kept so busy hanging onto his senate seat that he doesn't have time to interfere with people who have real work to do.


19 posted on 01/09/2005 11:03:32 PM PST by Let's Roll (Democrats - What happens when mental illness manifests itself as a political party.)
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the senator dug in even harder on blocking the nominees.

All the more reason to dump McCain. Any jackass who puts his personal grudges ahead of doing his job needs to get fired pretty damned pronto.

And people actually want this RINO dope to run for President? Lord have mercy!

20 posted on 01/09/2005 11:42:08 PM PST by Prime Choice (The DNC! Where boys and girls look the same! That's a little strange isn't it?)
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