Posted on 01/09/2005 12:58:30 PM PST by Racehorse
For 90 years, most Mexican Americans in South Texas have known the truth behind the myth — that during a reign of terror in 1915, Texas Rangers randomly lynched, shot and killed Tejanos, whose farms, ranches and land were coveted by Anglo land speculators.
Kirby Warnock, an Anglo baby boomer and Dallas filmmaker who grew up in Texas watching "The Lone Ranger," also grew up on alternative stories about the Rangers from his grandfather, Roland Warnock, a cowboy who worked on Guadalupe Ranch near Edinburg in the mid-1900s.
On Sept. 30, 1915, Roland Warnok witnessed the murder of two unarmed Tejanos — 68-year-old Jesus Bazan and his son-in-law Antonio Longoria — by Rangers in a Model T Ford. Bazan and Longoria were shot in the back, off their horses, as the Rangers passed by. Warnock found their bodies two days later and buried them where they remain today, on a lonely stretch of road 18 miles north of Edinburg.
Kirby Warnock told his grandfather's story — and the larger untold story of South Texas — in a documentary called "Border Bandits," which returns Jan. 16 at 7 p.m. to the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema in Westlakes Shopping Center on Southwest Loop 410. The film was here in November, sold out two theaters at the Alamo Draft-house and is back for an encore. For more information, visit www.drafthouse.com .
(Excerpt) Read more at mysanantonio.com ...
Thanks for translating.
Do you speak any other languages besides the morally superior one?
Frank Hamer IIRC. "Rangers carry a .45 b/c Colt don't make a .46."
it will become important...because of the racial and ethnic differences.
if the Rangers had killed white men in the same fashion, it would not be worth one breastbeat to the do gooders.
they will get around to Texan treatment of the Commanches and other indigs soon enough.
it will never end...baring something to take folks attention off finger pointing over the past.
So you deny that the lynchings of minorities that took place in the South and West of the United States were terrible crimes that we should look back on and abhor?
You deny that blacks, Mexicans, Asians, etc. were often murdered so white people could grab their property? You cling to the "romantic" notion of lynchings as some kind of frontier justice, in which most of the victims were guilty of real crimes?
I, for one, am interested in whether such crimes took place and their severity, not in the political ramifications of acknowledging history. Deliberately viewing history through a distorted lens to comfort yourself is pathetic.
You have a bad habit of assuming and putting words in folk's mouths to suit yourself and the high horse you project on this forum.
I do not need to look back and abhor to the extent you do. I'll give you that.
But while you're looking back, try to look at everyone and take a gander at today's injustices too...they are a bit more pertinent.
Is your heritage flawless?
If so, are you from some long line of victimhood or something?
Is that your motivation. Nobody can be so zealously idealistic and finger pointy and be an adult conservative.
In the post you respond to, I was asking questions. You can feel free to say "no, that's not what I think, here's what I think..."
Don't really know if the story's true or not. I do know that America's made some mistakes in the past, and hopefully we've learned from them. The one mistake we can't afford to make is to let the socialist scum regain a political foothold in this country. That is why I'm glad we have FR.
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Nothing going on in America today compares to the campaign of lynchings that took place in our history. They were brutal murders by a terroristic majority to keep a minority down. Any time a minority tried to make a buck for himself or his family, he subjected himself to the possibility of lynching.
Affirmative action and random gang violence can't hold a candle to lynchings.
OK.
That's amazing that you believe that. Do you have a count on lynchings?
Do you have a count on folks victimized by minorities for being white in the past 30 years? Let's compare. I would really like to see the stats if you have them. I have seen state studies about 100s of lynchings in Mississippi (my homestate) from Reconstruction to the early 1960s. I wonder how that compares to black on white crime over the past 30 years. Think Reginald Denny type stuff...it's not uncommon.
Do you know anyone white currently violently anti-minority. I don't. I read about a few here and there that TV trots out for Springer type shows but most of them won't bust a grape.
Yet, my hometown is 80% unsafe for a white person to move about after dark.
Who's more racist today?
Can you name me a public white organization on the order of La Raza, MECHA, NAACP, NOI...a white group openly crowing for white rights or preference that is not scorned? Why are racist groups for minorities not scorned? (hint: I know the answer...and folks like you are part of it)
Again...where are today's racists? If you are so concerned about misdeeds form 1-400 years ago committed by evil white males keeping minorities down, then where is your concern for where the problem lies today?
Are you selective in your choice of victim? Are minority victims more worthy of your concern? I and many I know have been the victims of minority crime...more than once. In places it's endemic. Where is it dangerous on that scale for minorities? Other than in their own communities?
I cannot walk the Bordeaux area of Nashville at night safely unarmed but a black or hispanic man or woman can walk in my relatively white upper middle class neighborhood without fear. Who's the racist today again?
Do you think white folks should be held to higher standards? Is that why you omit the transgressions of minorities? If that were true...hopefully not, I think that is paternalistic racism personally. I don't think, nay....I know that blacks in particular are quite capable of behaving just as well as white folks.
Back to Texas. Are you as upset about Mexican and Indian atrocities committed against white settlers in the old west days as you are the misdeeds whites committed? There were plenty. Study Santa Anna. Study Comanche slaughter of women and children...not just slaughter but gruesome torture unimaginable to most. Does all that upset you too....do you feel moral indignation against Indians and Mexicans for all that?
Again...do you hold "white" folks to a higher standard than Indians and Mexican troopers?
Do you even want a colorblind society? You coulda fooled me.
If slavery and lynchings can be soft-pedaled, why not the Holocaust, or the Ukranian famine, or any other historical atrocities?
If you want people to believe that criminal violence is often racially motivated because of a disproportionate targeting of whites, why not admit that lynchings too were often racially motivated?
Vigilantism, in the absence of efficient law enforcement, was often the only justice system.
1915. Woodrow Wilson, the most racist of U.S. presidents, was in the White House. The border, as always was full of intrigue. Pancho Villa was trying to provoke the U.S. into intervention. Filibusters were still after Mexican territory. Cross border thievery was an everyday occurrence. Border towns were still under the very real threat of Indian attack. Justice was less a matter of prodedure and more a matter of armed group conflict. I think it was White in The Texas Rangers that describes coming across a tree with five Mexicans hanging in it; "Yup, the Rangers have been here". The border is rough. Always has been. Always will be. If your sensibilities are easily offended, it's best to stay away.
"It called for the formation of a "Liberating Army of Races and Peoples," of Mexican Americans, African Americans, and Japanese, to "free" the states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, and Colorado from United States."
Isn't this essentially the Aztlan about which they're still crowing and making plans?
She's catering to Mexican ethnic revanchism and irredentism, which are strong in the identity-political salons of San Antonio.
Not a word in the excerpt about the Plan de San Diego that started the 1915 disorders, I see. That old Texas cowboy who's supposedly the source must have forgotten about the scores of Texas ranchers who were shot or hacked to death by gangs of Mexicans and Texas Mexicans -- their own employees, in some cases.
Not a word, either, about the fact that during the 80's and later (to this day, for all I know), young Mexican toughs rode around together on back roads in the Valley, looking for American girls to rape, which was explained in a news story I read as a political act -- intended as an object demonstration of contempt for the United States, its people, its culture, and its laws.
That is just not true.
Cynthia Tucker, editorial doyenne (and professional black racist) of the Atlanta Constitution, once wrote an article in which she threw out a number for the lynchings of blacks by whites between 1865 and the general end of lynching in the 1960's. The number was slightly more than 4700 lynchings.
Something very close to that number of white people get murdered every year by members of racial minorities -- most of the perps are black, and the numbers are somewhat muddied up by LEOs' insistence (five dollars says it's political -- any takers?) on lumping Hispanics together with Asians and whites as "non-blacks" in many cases.
The fact remains. Brothers murder out at a rate that equals the entire history of lynchings, every year.
Why didn't you know that?
But these are deemed to be economic crimes unless someone testifies in court that he heard the defendant say something that could "certify" a "hate crime". Like the case in Houston, 10 years ago or more now, in which a young black shot to death a Mexican illegal immigrant after saying out loud, to an audience, "I hate _____ing Mexicans!" That was pretty clear-cut.
But five black guys jumping a white guy in the Rolling Thirties of South Central and beating and stabbing him to death doesn't cut it as a "hate crime", as long as they take his wallet. The televised beating, right unto death's door, of Reginald Denny during the 1992 riots by the 83rd Street Crips apparently doesn't count, either -- anyone ever hear that described as a "hate crime"? It was certainly a "contempt crime" -- one of the defendants flashed a hand sign meaning "hey, I gotta make a phone call" during the judge's charge to the jury. Rush Limbaugh showed that on TV -- funny how I never saw that Crip's contempt for the courtroom, the judge, and everyone else "corroborated" by being broadcast over the MSM.
Bottom line, the Crips got wrist-slaps, and Reginald Denny never got back the ability to walk in a straight line.
But justice was served, right?
It doesn't sound crazy at all --- especially because that still seems to be the plan.
I guess "minorities" do a lot better when they stay in Africa and Mexico?
The winner always writes the history books and of course they tend to leave out the unpleasantries.
They'll probably try to do to the Lone Star flag what they did to the Confederate flag. And it's going to be Santa Ana = saint, and the men who died at the Alamo were the bad guys.
More Mexicans today are killed near the border --- far more than two --- many killed on the Mexican side by their own drug cartels, and many are killed and robbed by Mexican bandits as they wait to cross. And many are killed by Mexican people smugglers who value money far more than life. Yet the liberals would easily fixate on a claim made about something that may or may not have happened 90 years ago.
Many white people were killed and many others fled. The insurgents unsuccessfully attempted to rally blacks and American Indians to their side. Ethnic Japanese did help, though. I daresay that that was remembered in 1941 after Pearl Harbor.
There was so much continuing concern about Mexican-"Americans" that in 1930 census ethnic Mexicans were no longer counted as white but as Mexican. Lobbying by Mexican-"Americans" re-established them as white folk the in 1940 census.
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