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Our policy on illegals is criminal
The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | Sunday, January 9, 2005 | Dimitri Vassilaros

Posted on 01/09/2005 10:36:23 AM PST by Willie Green

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In case anyone missed it before, here's a previous article by the same author.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/opinion/columnists/s_282131.html

The high costs of low-priced produce

By Dimitri Vassilaros
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Sunday, December 12, 2004

The more you learn about illegal immigration, the less you should like it. Chances are you never cared much for it in the first place.

The Migrant Education Program gives you 897,000 more reasons to be disgusted by the stealth invasion from Mexico.

Taxpayers paid $393,600,000 last year to educate many of the roughly 900,000 eligible offspring of migrant workers in America. All of whom could be in this country illegally.

"Could," because thanks to a U.S. Supreme Court ruling in 1982, Plyler v. Doe, the government is not even allowed to ask parents if they are here illegally before they sign up for the government program.


Children ages 3 through 21 are entitled to a free education just because they are here. Even if the 21-year-old is married. And has children.

Services include tutorial programs, after-school extended hours, summer programs, in-home programs, health and social support services, parental involvement, advocacy, language arts and, of course, enrichment.

What? No frequent-flier miles on AeroMexico?!

The MEP "Artistas del Verano" program is "to increase the self-esteem and cultural awareness of migrant teenagers through the visual arts and academic enrichment. Participants were encouraged to study their own culture and bring to the design of the murals an image or icon to represent themselves."

The College Assistance Migrant Program is "a federally funded program designed for first-year college students from migrant and seasonal farm worker families. Pennsylvania's CAMP program is located at Penn State University. Established in 1972, CAMP has been available at Penn State since 1993. CAMP offers pre-college transition and first-year support services to help students develop the skills they need to stay in college and graduate."

High school dropouts do not fall through the cracks. They are offered alternatives, according to Suzanne E. Benchoff, director of migrant services. She oversees the implementation of the program in 30 Pennsylvania counties.

"We offer Web-based cyber schools to earn a Mexican high school diploma. They are provided with laptop computers, and our centers have high-speed DSL and T1 lines."

Ay caramba.

Apologists for illegal immigration (usually leaders of the two dominant political parties) tell you that foreigners are needed to do the work that lazy Americans will not do. snip.....


21 posted on 01/09/2005 12:01:27 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: oldbrowser

Great guy from the sounds of it and great ideas on how to deal with someone who breaks the law.

One thing from post: "He cut off coffee since it has zero nutritional value - "

That is being hard on them - taking away coffee! No!

And what is our President doing? He seems to be pushing our open borders by suggesting his pick for A.G. be approved. After listening to the hearings, the guy clearly doesn't deserve the job. He sees no difference between illegal and legal when it comes to immigrants.

The issue of immigration is being hidden under the cover of the abuse issue with the terrorist captured. Both parties and the media are ignoring the illegal issue and it's about time the people spoke up - before the guy gets in and things get worse -

Wish we had more people like this Sheriff - An official working for America and the people -


22 posted on 01/09/2005 12:04:54 PM PST by Pastnowfuturealpha
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To: All

We Kill our own through abortion, birth control and such. These people do not do such things and the area they come from is larger the the U.S. so it is clear they will over run us soon if we do not act. Neither political party wishes to address the proplem as they are after power only. The people must solve this proplem.


23 posted on 01/09/2005 12:05:21 PM PST by Ibredd
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To: Willie Green

Finally a spade being called a spade. US immigration laws and policing as they are practiced now in fact aid and abet criminal behavior and therefore those responsible are complicit in that crime. A felony I might add.


24 posted on 01/09/2005 12:06:20 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Willie Green

For some reason the links are connecting. I'll try later.


25 posted on 01/09/2005 12:08:25 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


26 posted on 01/09/2005 12:44:22 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: ohiocreek
While Bush recommends an AG (Gonzales) who apparently makes no distinction between illegals and native born Americans. When the heck is the right going to wake up to the treason being comitted by this administration?

If his agenda isn't clear to everyone by now, it never will be.

27 posted on 01/09/2005 12:45:52 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (No more illegal alien sympathizers from Texas. America has one too many.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Talking about it endlessly here on this forum does nothing! What has to happen once and for all if for you as a legal citizen be willing to call,e-mail or otherwise communicate directly with your elected Representative. Many people think that your representative reads the posts here and gets the message....WRONG! They get the message when you take the time to propose directly to them for their short comings. All your representatives have E-Mail addresses posted on the internet. If you want to get action start talking to them directly and remind them they work for you and me and are subject to Recall or IMPEACHMENT if necessary! Then check in here to see if anybody is getting the message! This is the only thing that will get their attention partner. They work for US! No matter how long they have been around they still answer to "WE THE PEOPLE"


28 posted on 01/09/2005 12:53:34 PM PST by winker
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To: Ibredd
Neither political party wishes to address the problem as they are after power only. The people must solve this problem.

The choice is clear.

Build another party, completely independent of the two beltway parties. The current two parties are too corrupt, too entrenched, and basically beyond repair. This is clear.

They are killing this country with their never ending spending, debt, and this open border, titanic disaster.

Simply put, if the American people do not do this, this country will eventually be lost.

A government that can not or will not control it's borders and protect it's sovereignty against millions pouring in illegally, illegitimately, will itself become illegitimate.

The time for change is now. Right now.

We must regain control of our beloved country now, or we and our children are all going to pay an unimaginable price.

29 posted on 01/09/2005 12:56:10 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (No more illegal alien sympathizers from Texas. America has one too many.)
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To: varon
Alberto R. Gonzales (born August 4, 1955 in San Antonio, Texas, USA) is a Mexican-American attorney and politician from the state of Texas. He is currently U.S. President George W. Bush's White House Counsel, and is Bush's nominee to replace John Ashcroft as United States Attorney General.

Gonzales was raised in Houston, the second of eight children born to Pablo and Maria Gonzales. His father, who died in 1982, was a construction worker, and both his parents were children of migrants from Mexico with less than a high-school education themselves. An honor student at MacArthur High School in Houston, Gonzales enlisted in the United States Air Force in 1973, serving for two years at Fort Yukon, Alaska before being accepted to the United States Air Force Academy in 1975. In 1977 he transferred to Rice University, where he earned a degree in political science in 1979; he then earned a law degree from Harvard Law School in 1982. He was the only one of his siblings to finish college. He has been married twice: he and his first wife, Diane Clemens, divorced in 1985; he and his second wife, Rebecca Turner, have three sons.

30 posted on 01/09/2005 12:57:00 PM PST by raybbr
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To: janetgreen

FYI


31 posted on 01/09/2005 12:59:48 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (No more illegal alien sympathizers from Texas. America has one too many.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Yes one would hope far a political solution, but in the end bullets carry more weight than ballets.


32 posted on 01/09/2005 1:14:08 PM PST by Ibredd
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To: varon
Does anyone know if Gonzales was born in Mexico or was he an "anchor baby" or born to US citizens?

A question I've been asking myself for a while now.

I've heard it both ways: that his parents were legal and illegal.

I would guess that, having crossed into the U.S. in the early '50s, around the time of "Operation Wetback" in 1954, they were probably legal. The actual population then of people who were here illegally was rather low, due to strict enforcement.

It is amazing, though. Here we have as noiminee for Attorney General of the United States a guy whose citizenship, and loyalty, to the United States is a question mark. He has memberships in various race and ethnically based organizations, many of whom essentially view the current boundaries of the United States as illegitimate. He stated during the Senate hearing that he believed illegal aliens are otherwise "lawful citizens", apparently as long as they aren't committing any ordinary crimes. Fascinating response for the top law officer of the United States, and the man whom the Border Patrol must look to for prosecution of the criminals they apprehend (the people who just happen to be committing the crime he claims isn't one).

There are millions of attornies in this country. Many of them are multi-generational natives, whose history winds all throughout American history. Does Mr. Bush really believe that this guy is "the Best Man for the job", or is this the most ridiculous case of Affirmative Action ever foisted on the American public?

You can probably guess my answer.

And I don't think it will be hard to figure where Sr. Gonzalez, hijo de Mexico, comes down on immigration laws made by gringos.

33 posted on 01/09/2005 1:20:16 PM PST by Regulator
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"Ninety-five percent of the identity theft cases in Northampton were committed by illegal aliens..but when we call immigration officials, they could not care less."

Document fraud is totally out of control. As another poster asked, why are our driver's licenses hologramed and security stripped while Social Security cards remain copyable/alterable by any schmoe with a scanner, printer and paint program?

"Unbeknownst to him, an illegal alien was using his identity for six years," he said. "The victim could not prove it was not him working in those states. A federal tax lien of $42,000 was placed on his assets. Creditors also placed liens. He could not qualify for loans because of his supposed bad credit history. It was a mess."

Yet fearless leader wants us to allow illegal aliens to tap into our unstable (some say fictional) Social Security funds. That they need only "prove" 18 quarters while we citizens are required to work 40 tells me our President believes these criminals are more worthy of our hard-earned benefits than we are.

"The county judge said they only were here to work. They were released one week after being picked up."

Living up to the cliche' of activist judiciary legislating from the bench, free from any censure or accountability.

Illegals also are destroying the quality of life for everyone near them. "We have areas with large concentrations of illegals, 30 to 40 in a house," Morganelli said. "They usually wait outside to be picked up for work. And sometimes they try to lure in little girls. People are sick about it."

What does it take to spark public outrage nowdays? How many atrocities does it take?

34 posted on 01/09/2005 1:36:21 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (The saner I become the madder I get,)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

BTT


35 posted on 01/09/2005 2:00:11 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: Willie Green

bttt


36 posted on 01/09/2005 2:15:33 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Willie Green
As the federal government ponders whether to enforce our immigration laws or just rename this nation "New Mexico"

No we already have a state with that name. I heard they were going to rename the USA Aztlan.

37 posted on 01/09/2005 5:13:51 PM PST by FITZ
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To: ohiocreek

He's also quite pro-abort --- sided with the pro-abortion side in gutting the parental notification law in Texas. Thanks to him and 5 others --- parents can be left out of their minor daughters' abortion decisions.


38 posted on 01/09/2005 5:21:04 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Excellent post. The bottom line is what you said:
Simply put, if the American people do not do this, this country will eventually be lost.

A tired, weary, beleaguered American taxpayer... who has had enough. (Hear me, Jorge????)

39 posted on 01/09/2005 5:23:05 PM PST by exhaustedmomma (Tancredo said Bush's guest-worker proposal is "a pig with lipstick")
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To: martin_fierro

Gee, are they the future? Now, I'm scared..... : (


40 posted on 01/09/2005 5:27:38 PM PST by Die_Hard Conservative Lady (I have left this blank for a reason....)
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